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over 6,000 average attendance

Napster

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From another poster

Using the stated attendances off the Football 365 Stats site, I've just worked out that if the Yeovil attendance is 9,947 or above then we will secure an average for the season of over 6,000.

If this happens I believe we get more plasma screens around the stadium- Dave can you confirm?
 
Surely we must have a made a decent profit this year?.

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As I replied on the other thread in a bit more detail, I think it's actually 9958 that we need! I really should be working...
 
If we get a 6,000 average we get another flat screen TV yes. However, from our calculations I think it's impossible to get over 6K.
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] (McScriven @ April 19 2005,10:57)]If we get a 6,000 average we get another flat screen TV yes. However, from our calculations I think it's impossible to get over 6K.
Is that average league attendance or overall average attendance?
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Smiffy @ April 19 2005,10:51)]Surely we must have a made a decent profit this year?.

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Well we won't find out until at least this time next year !!

We still haven't had the figures for 2003/2004
 
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[b said:
Quote[/b] (McScriven @ April 19 2005,10:57)]If we get a 6,000 average we get another flat screen TV yes. However, from our calculations I think it's impossible to get over 6K.
Is that average league attendance or overall average attendance?
League.
 
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[b said:
Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ April 19 2005,11:02)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (McScriven @ April 19 2005,10:57)]If we get a 6,000 average we get another flat screen TV yes. However, from our calculations I think it's impossible to get over 6K.
Is that average league attendance or overall average attendance?
League.
Cheers Dave.

I think that just goes to show the people who think we get about 12,000 every game that the club doesn't fiddle attendance figures because if they did they are doing themselves out of a whole load of plasma TVs.

Another question - what is our official capacity these days?
 
I have worked it out to be if the average is calculated just on leaguer attendances we will need to have an attendance of 9,920 against Yeovil to make the 6,000 mark. But if the average is worked out over the league, FA cup and LDV we would need an attendance of 12,221 against Yeovil to make the 6,000 mark.

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Quote[/b] (sufc_stu @ April 19 2005,11:24)]I have worked it out to be if the average is calculated just on leaguer attendances we will need to have an attendance of 9,920 against Yeovil to make the 6,000 mark. But if the average is worked out over the league, FA cup and LDV we would need an attendance of 12,221 against Yeovil to make the 6,000 mark.

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*in voice of Trainspotter (childrens bbc)*

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Yeah, my calculation's based on league attendances but, for instance, the Shrewsbury LDV game is the lowest of the season!!

If it's done purely on league, we can get over 6000 average.

Way I see it, we've had 128,042 for the 22 league games so far and 20,662 for the 3 LDV games + Luton.

If we want to average 6,000 for the league then we need 9958. 11,000 would give us 6045 average

If we want to average 6,000 in all comps, we need to get 13,296 at the Yeovil game. If we get, say, 11,000, we'll average 5914 and frankly, it would seem incredibly tight for the club not to meet it's promise with this figure when the league average attendance is almost bound to be over 6,000 average. Basically, it will be the Shrewsbury game in the first round that will have brought the average down.

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[b said:
Quote[/b] (McScriven @ April 19 2005,10:57)]However, from our calculations I think it's impossible to get over 6K.
Well, it depends if we're talking about just league gates, or "all competitions". If it's the former, then your figures are wrong, Dave.

Based on the gates stated on the club's website, the total attendance over the previous 22 league fixtures this season has been 128,042.

If we have a total league attendance of 138,000 over the course of the 23 home league fixtures this season, then that's an average of 6,000 per home game.

That means that so long as we get a gate of 9,958 or more against Yeovil, we've broken the 6,000 barrier for the first time in over a decade. The last season we did that was Fry's season - 1993-94.

Of course, were I a businessman thinking of advertising with the club, I could already vouch for the crowd against Yeovil - since the last edition of Blues News has told me that, against the Glovers:

<span style='color:blue'>&quot;we guarantee an attendance of 11,000-plus&quot;</span>

In fact, that same Blues News told me that

<span style='color:blue'>&quot;we guarantee a capacity crowd on the day&quot;</span>

Since capacity is stated on the club website (see the Roots Hall page) as being 12,392, it might even be said that the club have &quot;guaranteed&quot; that 12,392 will be the attendance for the Yeovil game...

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Either way, the club&#39;s commercial department might want to think about using words like &quot;anticipate&quot; instead of &quot;guarantee&quot; in future... you ought to be careful what you promise, you know. Anyhow, going on the club&#39;s own figures:

*If we get 9,958 against Yeovil, we will have achieved a season average gate of 6,000 (which is, IIRC from previous discussions with Uncle Ron, the magical &quot;break even&quot; figure for Roots Hall, which means that with the Sky FA Cup game and the LDV Final we must have made an operating profit this season, doesn&#39;t it?)

*If we get 11,000 against Yeovil (the club&#39;s stated sales figures so far), our season average will be 6,045.

*If we really do get a capacity crowd against Yeovil of 12,392, our season average will be 6,105 - almost indentical to Barry Fry&#39;s season when we played the likes of Birmingham, Sunderland and Leicester in the league... not Macclesfield, Chester or Rochdale.

Looking beyond the league, our attendance in all comps this season is (excluding the LDV Final and prior to the Yeovil game) 149,739. So long as the Yeovil gate exceeds 10,261, then we will have had 160,000 fans through the gates of Roots Hall - a figure we have not exceeded since the historic 1991-2 season (when we had 174,306 through the gates).

That averages out at 5,925 in all comps. In order to achieve an average of 6,000 in all comps, we will need to have 12,261 there for the Yeovil game. Even if capacity of Roots Hall is, as the club states, 12,392, it is unlikely (once segregation has been taken into account) that we will have 12,261 there for the Yeovil game (despite the club &quot;guaranteeing&quot; a capacity crows). This may be why, on an &quot;all competitions&quot; basis, the club may consider that it will be impossible for us to say that we have avergaed a gate of 6,000 at Roots Hall this season. However, we will have achieved that figure in the league after the Yeovil game...

Finally, if you were to add on 45% of the Millennium Stadium gate (that being our take) - i.e. 16,297 (less than the 16,640 of official pre-match sales, incidentally) - our figure for ticket sales this season even exceeds that of the 1991-92 season. It would mean that in 28 games (assuming we reach a total of 161,000 after Yeovil), we had a total &quot;gate&quot; of 177,297 in 28 games - which is an average of 6,332.

So this truly has been an historic season in every sense - but particularly in terms of our home attendances. And for that, everyone at the club should be congratulated - especially Tilly, Brushy and the players.

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Quote[/b] (sufcintheprem @ April 19 2005,11:44)]Yeah, my calculation's based on league attendances but, for instance, the Shrewsbury LDV game is the lowest of the season!!

If it's done purely on league, we can get over 6000 average.

Way I see it, we've had 128,042 for the 22 league games so far and 20,662 for the 3 LDV games + Luton.

If we want to average 6,000 for the league then we need 9958.  11,000 would give us 6045 average

If we want to average 6,000 in all comps, we need to get 13,296 at the Yeovil game.  If we get, say, 11,000, we'll average 5914 and frankly, it would seem incredibly tight for the club not to meet it's promise with this figure when the league average attendance is almost bound to be over 6,000 average.  Basically, it will be the Shrewsbury game in the first round that will have brought the average down.

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Where did you get you Attendances from as they don’t tally up to the Shrimpers official site or the BBC sport site??

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Quote[/b] (sufcintheprem @ April 19 2005,11:44)]Way I see it, we&#39;ve had 128,042 for the 22 league games so far and 20,662 for the 3 LDV games + Luton.
Ah, in the battle of the Stattos, I think you&#39;ll find that figure is 21,697.

Shrewsbury - 2,599
Luton - 6,683
Swindon - 4,270
Bristol Rovers - 8,145

That gives the season total of 149,739 for the league and cup games excluding Yeovil... which would leave us needing a gate of 12,261 to exceed 6,000 in all comps at Roots Hall this season.

However, we only need 9,958 against Yeovil to exceed an average of 6,000 in the league.

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Matt
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] (sufcintheprem @ April 19 2005,10:55)]As I replied on the other thread in a bit more detail, I think it's actually 9958 that we need!  I really should be working...
My 9,947 calculation is 6,000 rounded up.
In true Carol Vordeman stylee

6000 x 23 = 138,000
Total League Attendance so far from 22 games = 128,042

Therefore difference of 9,958 (you're right with your figure), but the accountant in me decided to test this figure as to how low it can go & 9,947 works out at 5,999.52 therefore rounded up is 6,000!

Here, endeth the lesson
 
How can anyone accuse you of being verbose Matt?

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However, I do dispute your all comps figure but either way, we&#39;re not getting 6,000 in all comps

Have we seriously got nothing better to do though?

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[b said:
Quote[/b] (sufcintheprem @ April 19 2005,12:05)]However, I do dispute your all comps figure but either way, we&#39;re not getting 6,000 in all comps
On what basis... my figures are taken from the official club website...

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Got mine from Football 365 where they tally the league ones up nicely for me. The cup games I added fromt he official site.

And Matt&#39;s right with his cup attendances though. I took the Memorial Ground figure in my apparent haste&#33;&#33;

In summary, we really are a bunch of nit-pickers.

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