No.33 your time is up....

[Jam_Man]

We know he is not a target man,The facts are he is younger and probably fitter than Corr and considering he had only been on for 15 minutes would have been the better option than a tired Corr in chasing the ball,whether he actually won the ball whilst being the lone man makes little difference simply because IMO you don't want inexperienced young forwards defending their own third.

Thats your personal opinion and one we will have to agree to disagree on. Id rather Corr up front holding the ball up. No point Woodrow being fitter if he isnt able to to get hold of the ball against two big centre halves.

Even if we go down your route and say Woodrow should have been left up front due to his freshness then all that does is justfiy him being on the pitch even more....

 

[chapperzUK]

If he had Woodrow up front on his own, then who would have been supporting him if Corr was back defending? Surely better to have Woodrow's energy used to track their full-back and then support Corr up front.

 

[mrsblue]

If he had Woodrow up front on his own, then who would have been supporting him if Corr was back defending? Surely better to have Woodrow's energy used to track their full-back and then support Corr up front.

With only minutes left and down to 10 and in front do you think the blues would have been mounting attacks ?

 

[Southend Elvis]

All this wouldn't matter if we was winning, Woodrow isn't what we need.. we need an older more experienced man who knows what this league is all about. I'm trying not to blame PB, because I think he had to.. we needed to stop what could have been a record number of loses on the spin, and to gamble with a youngster was wrong, if we was going to use a youngster why couldn't we have one of our own, who must be crying out for a start.

 

[mrsblue]

All this wouldn't matter if we was winning, Woodrow isn't what we need.. we need an older more experienced man who knows what this league is all about. I'm trying not to blame PB, because I think he had to.. we needed to stop what could have been a record number of loses on the spin, and to gamble with a youngster was wrong, if we was going to use a youngster why couldn't we have one of our own, who must be crying out for a start.

That's what I have been saying all afternoon.

 

[Southend Elvis]

This in my opinion comes about because of this bloody Umbungo, RM sort your life out and allows to operate like any other League 2 club, until he does things won't improve. I can foresee a parting of the waves soon, as PB has a perfect excuse.... Cannot manage a club that cannot buy players.

 

[chapperzUK]

With only minutes left and down to 10 and in front do you think the blues would have been mounting attacks ?

Counter attacks, yes. Bury would be committing players forward looking for an equaliser, play it up to Corr to hold up and bring others in (i.e. Woodrow) and it's 2-0 game over.

All this wouldn't matter if we was winning, Woodrow isn't what we need.. we need an older more experienced man who knows what this league is all about. I'm trying not to blame PB, because I think he had to.. we needed to stop what could have been a record number of loses on the spin, and to gamble with a youngster was wrong, if we was going to use a youngster why couldn't we have one of our own, who must be crying out for a start.

So after months of begging for a young, pacey striker we now was an older experienced man which we already have in Eastwood and Corr. Also, we did stop the run of losses. Finally, which youngster would you have used? Can't think of any strikers we have that have pace and experience (isn't that what you wanted?).

 

[mrsblue]

Counter attacks, yes. Bury would be committing players forward looking for an equaliser, play it up to Corr to hold up and bring others in (i.e. Woodrow) and it's 2-0 game

The facts are we drew 1 1 with that actual scenario.

 

[dannypav]

Whilst not suggesting Woodrow is going to be our 'shining light' , it is still far too early to judge him right now.
IIRC both Britt and Tomlin ( definately Tomlin ) received quite a lot of negative comments during the early part of last season.
I hope the lad does start to knock in a few , because as much as BBBC and Freddy both have excellent attributes , we do not have that 'out ball' over the top and are therefore IMO relatively easy to contain for the opposition.
Teams don't have to be too concerned about our strikers running from the half way line to score , because it's just not going to happen.

 

[Southend Elvis]

I can remember us playing Keith Dublin(defender) up front a few times, so any midfield youngsters up front would do

 

[Jam_Man]

This in my opinion comes about because of this bloody Umbungo, RM sort your life out and allows to operate like any other League 2 club, until he does things won't improve. I can foresee a parting of the waves soon, as PB has a perfect excuse.... Cannot manage a club that cannot buy players.

Whilst Id love nothing more than Ron Martin to sort out this financial mess Id just to point out for the umpteenth time that we have a space in the squad, we can sign someone!

The facts are we drew 1 1 with that actual scenario.

If only we could make decisions knowing the outcome eh ?

All you can do is make decisions based on what you know at the time and leaving Corr up front and putting Woodrow wide makes sense to me, even when I didnt know thats what was done until after the outcome.

I can remember us playing Keith Dublin(defender) up front a few times, so any midfield youngsters up front would do

As a big target man yeah?

What like Corr?

All this wouldn't matter if we was winning, Woodrow isn't what we need.. we need an older more experienced man who knows what this league is all about. I'm trying not to blame PB, because I think he had to.. we needed to stop what could have been a record number of loses on the spin, and to gamble with a youngster was wrong, if we was going to use a youngster why couldn't we have one of our own, who must be crying out for a start.

How can you contradict yourself so badly in one paragragh ?

So we want to stop the run of losses, which we did.

You want an experienced player instead of Woodrow, thats fair enough, but then say you would rather one of our youngsters instead. What on earth for ? Woodrow is clearly better than our youngsters so when its so vital to make an impact you want to play someone with any less experience and talent.

Really just sounds like you dont like Woodrow, which if thats the case then fine, but lets stop dressing it up as something else.

 

[Southend Elvis]

No pointing out we could put anyone up front, who we actually own, because they might sweat blood for the cause

 

[chapperzUK]

I can remember us playing Keith Dublin(defender) up front a few times, so any midfield youngsters up front would do

Let's stick Jack Payne up there then, I'm sure he would do fine against 2 big defenders ...

 

[Jam_Man]

No pointing out we could put anyone up front, who we actually own, because they might sweat blood for the cause

Sounds great. Who would you put up front then that would be better in the role than Woodrow?

I definitely want Eastwood and Corr in front of him, after that Im struggling to think of anyone. Sweating blood is one thing, but I expect them to be able to play in that role as well, lots of running around isnt going to win us games.

Let's stick Jack Payne up there then, I'm sure he would do fine against 2 big defenders ...

Sorry didnt think of him. Yep he is one of ours so will be better as he will be more passionate.

 

[Southend Elvis]

I give up, you guys know more about football than me. I'm behind you to be our next managers now...

 

[Feathers]

Who said play Corr there?,If it had been my choice he would have gone and Played in front of the CBs

Erm, you did when you said woodrow should have stayed up front and corr dropped back!

 

[Tampa Blue]

Whilst Id love nothing more than Ron Martin to sort out this financial mess Id just to point out for the umpteenth time that we have a space in the squad, we can sign someone!/QUOTE]

Just because we have a squad space doesn't mean that we can sign someone as wages will need paying and we all know that we have no money.

I guess that's why youngsters whose parent clubs are willing to pay most of the wages are the most attractive option for us.

 

[Feathers]

No pointing out we could put anyone up front, who we actually own, because they might sweat blood for the cause

Your main arguements for not playing woodrow are that he is too young and because he is on loan he will not try hard enough. I dont recall this being a problem with britt asaombolonga last year.

 

[mrsblue]

Erm, you did when you said woodrow should have stayed up front and corr dropped back!

No,

It was you who stated Corr was a worse option playing LM than Woody,At that time I only mentioned Corr should drop back without stating any position.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

I could seriously see Jack Payne playing behind a big striker, just a bit deeper feeding off the main striker. He has skill in bundles, ball sticks to his feet and he had great vision with a good footballing brain