Mildenhall

[GBJ]

There was me thinking that the idea of a message board is for posters to air their views accordingly. If everyone agreed with each other then this and any similar message board would become sterile and they just wouldn't work.

Eh? Erm, i think we are both trying to get across the same point?

My point was that because someone has a different opinion to the majority, then that individual receives condecending replies, instead of reasoned debate.

 

[canveyshrimper]

Eh? Erm, i think we are both trying to get across the same point?

My point was that because someone has a different opinion to the majority, then that individual receives condecending replies, instead of reasoned debate.

Probably. In some instances you may be right, however in this thread I think not, a poster has made his views about Steve Mildenhall, and in this instance the majority of posts have disagreed with his view point. I don't really think that any of the posts are particularly condescending.

 

[Reg Martin]

Fair point and taking that a step further and a little off topic, from what has been stated on here there has been abuse heaped upon Heath (in particular) and White for the heinous crime of being on loan from Colchester.

The chant of 'we're **** and we're beating you' mentioned on here is also beneath contempt - especially so on the opening day of the season.
How did the people who chanted that arrive at that opinion? After all we've still got 90% of the squad that finished 8th last year.
Can't help but wonder whether the negativity aired on here throughout the summer was a factor. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but as this is primarily a forum for supporters I often cannot understand the determination to look for the worst in everything that happens at the club. And if it is influencing people who are too young or stupid to know better to come out with those sort of chants than actually it is in danger of harming the team they claim to support

 

[GBJ]

Mayebe some people are a bit defensive about Mildenhall because when he first signed a certain section of 'fans' were on his back even in pre-season friendlies simply because he wasn't Darryl Flahaven.
I am not accusing you of being one of them, just making the point that we seem to have a section of our 'support' who are total scumbags and seem to go out of their way to undermine certain players and even the team as a whole.

I can understand people being defensive over the guy, but i can't understand why X amount of people have to try and be condecending towards the origional poster? Is there a need?

I didn't rate him when he first started here, and have no problem saying that.

But as i said he has come a long way since last season and don't feel as worried as i first did. He is still prone to the odd fumble IMO

I'd also like to add, I do not condone public slating of any southend player, whilst he is actually playing.

 

[GBJ]

Probably. In some instances you may be right, however in this thread I think not, a poster has made his views about Steve Mildenhall, and in this instance the majority of posts have disagreed with his view point. I don't really think that any of the posts are particularly condescending.

Of course.

If you can't see it, you can't see it, but it's not hard to miss

 

[Reg Martin]

I can understand people being defensive over the guy, but i can't understand why X amount of people have to try and be condecending towards the origional poster? Is there a need?

I didn't rate him when he first started here, and have no problem saying that.

But as i said he has come a long way since last season and don't feel as worried as i first did. He is still prone to the odd fumble IMO

I'd also like to add, I do not condone public slating of any southend player, whilst he is actually playing.

I didn't think people were being condescending to the original post just disagreeing with it. Maybe the number of posters who came to Mildy's defence made you sympathise with the original poster. I can understand that but equally I was simply trying to explain why people may be so keen to defend Mildenhall

 

[GBJ]

I didn't think people were being condescending to the original post just disagreeing with it. Maybe the number of posters who came to Mildy's defence made you sympathise with the original poster. I can understand that but equally I was simply trying to explain why people may be so keen to defend Mildenhall

Like i said mate, i thought SOME responses were a bit condecending, maybe not on a vicious nasty level, and more than likely on a defensive one. A sort of... "this subject again" sort of feeling.

I do sympathise with the origional poster as i have been in his situation before with my views on 'certain players'. :):):):):)

Still, that's the way it works round here i guess :)

 

[canveyshrimper]

I didn't think people were being condescending to the original post just disagreeing with it. Maybe the number of posters who came to Mildy's defence made you sympathise with the original poster. I can understand that but equally I was simply trying to explain why people may be so keen to defend Mildenhall

Thanks I was starting to think I was myopic.

 

[alginon1]

Guys

Since supporting SUFC, since the early 70’s I have never booed or bad mouthed any of our players.
Desperately, I hope I’m proved very wrong. Like all of you I want to be out of this division as soon as possible.

I do hope my opinion has not upset anybody, but I think solid teams are built from the back:)

 

[Richard_Cadette]

I'm not worried about Mildy's distribution or organisational skills - I do, however, question his ability to command any part of his area.

This isn't something new - I have said this since he joined us. A lovely bloke, a decent shot stopper at times, but given his height and stature, his command of the 18 yard box is poor.

Pilkington was practically standing under his nose when he scored on Saturday, and Mildenhall was nowhere to be seen, and the second goal, IMO, was entirly down to him not coming for a ball which was in the air for about 30 minutes!! He could, and SHOULD, have come for it and cleared the danger, instead, he didn't do anything, and it resulted in them equalising.

The irony of it is, is that 99% of people criticised Daryl for being too short and not taking control of the penalty area - Mildenhall is very tall, and very well built, yet takes no more control than Daryl did!!

 

[BoyWonder2]

I think thats incredibly harsh on Mildenhall. He commands his 6 yard box extremely well, and does a good job in the rest of the box.

Sometimes he comes for crosses he shouldn't, i.e the Yeovil game at Roots Hall last season where they scored from. But he makes his mind up and sticks to it, unlike a lot of other goalkeepers I see.

There will be more mistakes from Mildenhall than Darryl because Mildenhall tries to command his box. Its easier to blame him for dropping a catch or missing the ball when he comes out for a cross, then for him sticking to his line and not saving it which is what sometimes happened with Darryl.

There are two types of goalkeepers. The commanding type goalkeeper, and the "safe" goalkeeper. If you have two centre halfs that don't dominant in the air, which was the case with Barrett and Clarke, then you need a dominating goalkeeper like Mildenhall to take the pressure off. If you have two dominant centre halfs then you don't have to have a dominant goalkeeper. I fall into the same section as Darryl and it frustates the life out of me.

I'm very happy with Mildenhall, and I don't think there will be many better than him in the division this season.

 

[Neil_F]

Pilkington was practically standing under his nose when he scored on Saturday, and Mildenhall was nowhere to be seen, and the second goal, IMO, was entirly down to him not coming for a ball which was in the air for about 30 minutes!! He could, and SHOULD, have come for it and cleared the danger, instead, he didn't do anything, and it resulted in them equalising.

The second goal was entirely as a consequence of Barrett failing to win the first ball just outside the penalty area. It would put any side under a lot of pressure and has happened game after game, season after season...

 

[OldBlueLady]

The second goal was entirely as a consequence of Barrett failing to win the first ball just outside the penalty area. It would put any side under a lot of pressure and has happened game after game, season after season...

No, it wasn't, it was a direct consequence of the **** of a ref awarding a completely incorrect free kick against James Walker.

 

[manor15]

No, it wasn't, it was a direct consequence of the **** of a ref awarding a completely incorrect free kick against James Walker.

That's what I said.
Was righ in front of me and Walker was making his run into the box
and the defender just didn't move and then walker went down so he went down and they got freekick! :stunned:

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I'm not worried about Mildy's distribution or organisational skills - I do, however, question his ability to command any part of his area.

This isn't something new - I have said this since he joined us. A lovely bloke, a decent shot stopper at times, but given his height and stature, his command of the 18 yard box is poor.

Pilkington was practically standing under his nose when he scored on Saturday, and Mildenhall was nowhere to be seen, and the second goal, IMO, was entirly down to him not coming for a ball which was in the air for about 30 minutes!! He could, and SHOULD, have come for it and cleared the danger, instead, he didn't do anything, and it resulted in them equalising.

The irony of it is, is that 99% of people criticised Daryl for being too short and not taking control of the penalty area - Mildenhall is very tall, and very well built, yet takes no more control than Daryl did!!

Eh? Mildenhall controls his penalty area way better than Flahavan. He's not perfect but he is a substantial upgrade over Flahavan in this (and many other) respect(s).

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Eh? Mildenhall controls his penalty area way better than Flahavan. He's not perfect but he is a substantial upgrade over Flahavan in this (and many other) respect(s).

For a keeper of his height, I think Mildy is very poor when it comes to coming out and claiming crosses. Richard had it dead right on the second goal - he should have claimed that ball.

 

[OldBlueLady]

For a keeper of his height, I think Mildy is very poor when it comes to coming out and claiming crosses. Richard had it dead right on the second goal - he should have claimed that ball.

Have to say, I thought as much too. Say what you like, Dazzler was better at point blank stuff.

 

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

Richard had it dead right on the second goal - he should have claimed that ball.

I thought at the time that it seemed like he should have come for the ball, but on seeing the highlights, it's a great cross with pace towards the penalty spot, this then gets headed back across goal, but outside the post, then nodded back between the penalty spot and the six yard line, from where it's bundled in. If you want to blame anyone for either goal, it's probably Francis for letting the crosses (esp the 1st one) come in way too easily. Clarky made a great point about this on the radio last night. If you watch the 1st goal, Francis jumps as the cross comes in, but turns sideways on as he does so, meaning there's less of him to hit....

 

[Shrimper]

I thought that against Huddersfield Mildenhall's distribution from kicking had vastly improved. He seemed to get it that little bit further and was able to give the defenders something to worry about which is something that we haven't seen since the days of Federici. He's improved and i'd keep him at all costs. Better than Flahavan? possibly.

 

[timeveritt]

he used to be sh*te but now he's alright! walking in a mildy wonderland.