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Metal Monday Pt.16

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SUFC_Al said:
have you watched Metallica S&M with the San Francisco Orchestra?

Now that is bridging thrash metal and classical music!
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yep i've got the cd, i actually studied it in depth for a-level music, as i looked to focus on how often trying to bridge two 'genres' does little more than to emphases similarities in the styles.

A lot of Metallicas stuff (well especially the stuff on S&M) fits the structures of classical music... rise and falls... repeated phases... passages of play... even the chord and harmony progressions.

it's also interesting is how metallica and (especially) radiohead often have guitar phrases they almost seem illogical for guitarists and instead were much more theory based (amazing for metallica as i don't think any of them had any formal music education), with radiohead a lot of songs were written on pianos first and then learnt on the guitar... probably why some of their melodies and riffs are so much more musical and emotive than a lot of imitators. i think i read about how metallica take a riff and then really build it into a musical journey

music lesson over!
 
Pubey said:
yep i've got the cd, i actually studied it in depth for a-level music, as i looked to focus on how often trying to bridge two 'genres' does little more than to emphases similarities in the styles.

A lot of Metallicas stuff (well especially the stuff on S&M) fits the structures of classical music... rise and falls... repeated phases... passages of play... even the chord and harmony progressions.

it's also interesting is how metallica and (especially) radiohead often have guitar phrases they almost seem illogical for guitarists and instead were much more theory based (amazing for metallica as i don't think any of them had any formal music education), with radiohead a lot of songs were written on pianos first and then learnt on the guitar... probably why some of their melodies and riffs are so much more musical and emotive than a lot of imitators. i think i read about how metallica take a riff and then really build it into a musical journey

music lesson over!
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well said that man, metal is often derided for having no talent but in fact they're some of the most talented musicians out there and the fact that classical conductors can compare some metal music to that of classic music is proof enough for me.

Kirk Hammett was taught by Steve Vai (I think, hence the triplet style soloing) but Hetfield was just taught by a college mate I believe.

I have learnt quite a lot of Metallica's music on guitar and they do play over the whole fret board from simple power-chord riffs to slightly harder arpeggios and they have some quite mammoth tracks, perhaps overplaying sometimes but that was down to youthful exuberance and probably too much beer!

In my music I try to be as varied as possible, trying to utilise what you said in the highlighted text, being a little bit daring sometimes and not conforming to straight 4/4 timing all the time and simple verse chours verse structures.
 
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MK Shrimper said:
Ooh Steve Vai...Joe Satriani.... Ywingie Malmsteen.....

Can't stand that stuff... Heavy Metal W*nking.
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I'm not a fan myself, especially Malmsteen, total fret board w*nker and you rarely hear any kind of melody coming from them, it's all 'look at me, i can play 15,000 notes in 20 seconds'

KH of Metallica is able to produce much more melody in a solo.
 
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Glad that you picked an oldie rather than the more recent bag of ****e that Metallica have been pedalling out. "...And Justice for All" is a top album and in my eyes the last great Metallica record.
 
Metal is for people who take it up the chuff :D

Got there before scott.. :D
 
It was Joe Satriani who taught Steve Vai and Kirk Hammett, in fact I remember watching an interview with all 3 back in the early 90's when Joe said that he was learning himself and then would go and give these two lessons.

Oh MK it is Yngwie - a great Swedish name. ;)
 
Bob Cratchitt said:
It was Joe Satriani who taught Steve Vai and Kirk Hammett, in fact I remember watching an interview with all 3 back in the early 90's when Joe said that he was learning himself and then would go and give these two lessons.

Oh MK it is Yngwie - a great Swedish name. ;)
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ah yes thanks for clearing that up BC
 
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