Martin McGuinness Dies Aged 66

[OldBlueLady]

If he had divulged where the missing IRA victims were buried before he died, and which there is no doubt he knew about, then I might have had a bit more sympathy. Nelson Mandela also had blood on his hands, but he made his peace with the world and went about things in the right way. McGuinness didn't.

 

[Gremlin]

This is about right.

 

[Swiss Tony]

This is about right.

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Yep just about nailed it.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

The British Army killed some 306 people in Ireland during Operation Banner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Banner

"about 51% of whom were civilians and 41% of whom were members of republican paramilitaries".

That body count doesn't include the 50+ fatalities the RUC were responsible for.

 

[Bielzibubz]

Barna, I'm doing my utmost to keep it civil here but are you suggesting that the British Army and the RUC deliberately went out to maim and kill innocent members of the public and destroy countless lives in the process? I'm assuming from your selective sentence cherry picked Wiki link that's exactly what you're suggesting.

The provisional IRA specifically set out to kill, maim and destroy lives and communities both at home here on the UK mainland and in NI. To compare the two truly says far more about you as a person that it does about the topic of discussion. You're a disgrace to your birth nation and it's people. Stay in your adopted Spain my friend because I can assure you you're becoming less and less welcome back here.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Barna, I'm doing my utmost to keep it civil here but are you suggesting that the British Army and the RUC deliberately went out to maim and kill innocent members of the public and destroy countless lives in the process? I'm assuming from your selective sentence cherry picked Wiki link that's exactly what you're suggesting.

The provisional IRA specifically set out to kill, maim and destroy lives and communities both at home here on the UK mainland and in NI. To compare the two truly says far more about you as a person that it does about the topic of discussion. You're a disgrace to your birth nation and it's people. Stay in your adopted Spain my friend because I can assure you you're becoming less and less welcome back here.

What I am implying is that the IRA were not the only widowmakers in Ireland.

 

[united we stand]

Very, very unpalatable. However, I will remember and recognize he contributed to the peace process in his way. I will also remember and recognize his overriding reasons for being a part of it, his freely admitted criminal terrorist history and the blood of the murdered innocents he has on his hands and the misery he caused to thousands.

He was and will always be remembered by all decent human beings as a murdering scumbag and anyone that wishes he should rest in peace should take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror and seriously wonder why their moral compass is so broken.

i was disappointed with this post.i read the first three words and looked forward to reading a rant at TUIB

 

[OldBlueLady]

What I am implying is that the IRA were not the only widowmakers in Ireland.

The difference being that the IRA set out to deliberately do so. The RUC and the British Army were largely reactionary.

 

[Ex-Member1]

Thank God for the sane people on this site. There really have been some disturbing comments by sympathisers don't you think?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

The difference being that the IRA set out to deliberately do so. The RUC and the British Army were largely reactionary.

I'd certainly agree that the RUC and the British Army were "reactionary." :winking:

 

[rigsby]

Panorama on Tuesday was about the British intelligent operation in NI against the IRA. Worth having a look on catch up for those of you interested in the real reason the IRA called for a cease fire.

Not worth watching if you live in Spain and suffer from left-wing political myopia

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Panorama on Tuesday was about the British intelligent operation in NI against the IRA. Worth having a look on catch up for those of you interested in the real reason the IRA called for a cease fire.

Not worth watching if you live in Spain and suffer from left-wing political myopia

Saw a clip on c4 news the other night about a forthcoming film on the Good Friday talks with Colm Meaney as MM and Paisley played byT.Spall.Looked good.



Edit.The Spy in the IRA? Just seen it on YOUTUBE.

Can't say it reflects well on either side involved in the conflict,especially not the Intelligence services.

Needless to say MM is only mentioned, fleetingly, once in the programme and was not involved in any of the issues raised by the Panarama team.