Maria Miller

[Massimo Giovanni]

They know the salary when they apply for the job.
Miller has a constituency in Basingstoke, a commuter town FFS!
Why did she, or our Essex MPs, need 2nd homes?
I can understand the remoter MPs position being different BUT making excuses for some of the inexcusable does not, IMO, move things forward & for the sake of democracy it MUST improve PDQ or radicalisation will gather support.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Even simpler -

Build a large halls of residence. It only need to be a few hundred rooms. It can be a crashpad with a 24/7 canteen for food, gym/pool, some meeting rooms, sex dungeon etc etc.

When parliament is in recess (something like 100 days! even teachers don't get that!!!) then the halls can be let out as a hotel or hostel or something.

Give them a tent, a sleeping bag and a broken bottle to defend themselves with. *****.

 

[londonblue]

Even simpler -

Build a large halls of residence. It only need to be a few hundred rooms. It can be a crashpad with a 24/7 canteen for food, gym/pool, some meeting rooms, sex dungeon etc etc.

When parliament is in recess (something like 100 days! even teachers don't get that!!!) then the halls can be let out as a hotel or hostel or something.

I think this was looked into and deemed too dangerous. All those MPs in one place...

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

I think this was looked into and deemed too dangerous. All those MPs in one place...

They do it it in Germany still!
But then they do a lot of things sensibly in Germany.

 

[Pubey]

I think this was looked into and deemed too dangerous. All those MPs in one place...

Unlike parliament?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

On Question Time there was the Miller topic, poor answers from her replacement toryboy, although, to my surprise Harriet Harmen spoke some sense; fair play to her for that as usually she just spouts party lines.
The overall impression was that politicians STILL do not understand the public perception and loathing of the all too low ethics and standards that STILL continue in the H of P.
Lastly the audience was very tame and a tad boring.

Thought Billy Bragg was excellent.

 

[Benfleet A1]

Heard Ken Livingstone on LBC this morning talking some plain common sense. His suggestion was to assign secretary and researchers to MP's but they are employed by Westminster, not the MP themselves. Once the MP goes or retires then the employee is reassigned to someone else. Also, he suggested that second homes are owned by Westminster and once again, assigned to non London MP's who give it back once they stop being an MP.

Made perfect sense to me.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

Heard Ken Livingstone on LBC this morning talking some plain common sense. His suggestion was to assign secretary and researchers to MP's but they are employed by Westminster, not the MP themselves. Once the MP goes or retires then the employee is reassigned to someone else. Also, he suggested that second homes are owned by Westminster and once again, assigned to non London MP's who give it back once they stop being an MP.

Made perfect sense to me.

I can't remember which building it was but Livingstone wanted it converted into flats for MP's who have to have second homes for travelling issues etc. It was a good idea but one of the reasons for opposition was that having a large number of British MP's in one building at same time was a security risk (obviously hadn't heard of parliament !) like I say, it was a good idea.

 

[Benfleet A1]

Think it was the old GLC building just over the river from Westminster.

 

[mrsblue]

In Las Vegas there are an estimated 100,000 living inside storm drains under the city,Why not let all MPs kip down the drains and they can meet their true fellows...Rats.

 

[londonblue]

In Las Vegas there are an estimated 100,000 living inside storm drains under the city,Why not let all MPs kip down the drains and they can meet their true fellows...Rats.

I happen to actually know 2 MPs personally. One is Grant Shapps, the current tory party chairman. The other is, Luciana Berger, the shadow minister for public health. I can assure you neither of them are rats. Both of them are actually very nice genuine people who want to the best they can. I really think it is about time we stopped vilifying people we don't know.

As with Maria Miller, if they do something wrong, then by all means have a go. But let's not tar everyone with the same brush. Collective responsibility is a very rocky road.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

I need to ask londonblue, are they aware of the extent of distrust, apathy and general ill feeling towards MPs?

 

[dingleydangley]

I happen to actually know 2 MPs personally. One is Grant Shapps, the current tory party chairman. The other is, Luciana Berger, the shadow minister for public health. I can assure you neither of them are rats. Both of them are actually very nice genuine people who want to the best they can. I really think it is about time we stopped vilifying people we don't know.

As with Maria Miller, if they do something wrong, then by all means have a go. But let's not tar everyone with the same brush. Collective responsibility is a very rocky road.

Completely agree. In a general sense I think Tories are a health hazard but I don't revel in this or any other expenses scandal. MP's pay is a minefield. They get compared, quite rightly, with the average earner while genuinely dodgy professions (not just bankers) pay what they like and we STILL pick up the bill. Maria Miller's in the wrong, Cameron played it badly and there's a whiff of corruption in the air but it's dangerous to lump all politicians/public figures in together.

 

[mrsblue]

I happen to actually know 2 MPs personally. One is Grant Shapps, the current tory party chairman. The other is, Luciana Berger, the shadow minister for public health. I can assure you neither of them are rats. Both of them are actually very nice genuine people who want to the best they can. I really think it is about time we stopped vilifying people we don't know.

As with Maria Miller, if they do something wrong, then by all means have a go. But let's not tar everyone with the same brush. Collective responsibility is a very rocky road.

I don't care if you know every single MP in the house,They made their bed,It's their own making.

Do you have dinner with these 2 ?


You don't know 99.9% of the other MPs.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

I don't care if you know every single MP in the house,They made their bed,It's their own making.

Do you have dinner with these 2 ?

They probably claimed for a butler that made it for them

 

[mrsblue]

They probably claimed for a butler that made it for them

And they claimed for the butler's wife.