Just imagine those two decision in FA Cup-semi

[prittlewellshrimper]

I'm really ****ed at how those officials from Saturday can make 2 100 % wrong decisions and not be questioned or answerable to anyone. Our passion for SUFC is every bit as important as any ManU or Chelsea fan but just stop and think of the outcry if in any Prem or FA Cup semi match this weekend 1. The ball HAD crossed the line and gone out for a throw in the build up to a goal ( i know it did as i sit in the East and could see as plain as day the outer edge of the line with the ball totally the wrong side of it ) 2. A player NOT being booked ( a second caution of the match for the player involved ) for deliberate handball for which the referee award a free kick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ASTOUNDING !!! Am i missing something here or am I right to be annoyed . We pay good money to watch our sport , surely we are entitled to officials who are able to make EASY decisions like these correctly ???

 

[Shrimper2thecore]

Spot on, its amazing how poor the officiating can be in our 2nd league (the 4the most watched league in the world!!)

 

[Hawkwell Blue]

Spot on, its amazing how poor the officiating can be in our 2nd league (the 4the most watched league in the world!!)

Surely the time has come for referees to publicly justify their decisions, okay we might not agree with them but at least we could get a reason. I would love to know what the ref Saturday would have to say about the hand ball. It beggars belief.

 

[C C Csiders]

I know the first decision wasn't his fault, but I knew we were doomed as I saw him warming up before the game. He reffed us against Cardiff, and was a total tool in that game too.

Short man syndrome definitely with him. His missus has given him a hard time all week, so he'll take it out on the home fans, as there are more of them to pi$$ off and antagonize.

 

[Rayleigh boy]

we definately get given the ****e out of form referees - our fixtures are percieved as being low priority -

i thought the RH crowd was a bit slow to remind him of his responsibilities when he should have sent the player off

 

[mattytheshrimper]

just to add that handball i had a great view off. i didn't know he had a booking already but it was a deliberate handball and should have been off.

but to be fare jcr did handball the ball when it was going out but still you can't do that. it was a reaction thing for sure but still i think the ref let him off

 

[Pubey]

just to add that handball i had a great view off. i didn't know he had a booking already but it was a deliberate handball and should have been off.

but to be fare jcr did handball the ball when it was going out but still you can't do that. it was a reaction thing for sure but still i think the ref let him off

yeah if he had sent howard off then he probably would have lost his job for failing to send off jcr (which was even more blatent)

 

[prittlewellshrimper]

Dont get sidetracked by the JCR one guys . He knew he wouldnt get booked as the ref had set a precident hadnt he also i doubt JCR would have thought he was on a basketball court if the Barnsley player had been dealt with as the Rules/laws state .

 

[Kris]

I think the JCR incident is an isolated case. His handball was purely an impulsive gesture of frustration at Bradbury's overhit pass and he didn't try and seek an advantage from it, so it was rightly a free-kick but not a booking.

 

[SUFC_Al]

I couldn't believe Howard didn't get another booking for that handball, we were building up play and any deliberate handball, no matter where on the pitch gets a yellow card.

For my money the ref bottled it 100% and didn't book JCR for fear of getting slated.

 

[Firestorm]

I felt the ref was fine first half , he didn't fling the cards around like a lot of refs and on many occassions interpreted the advantage (or lack of) very well.
He missed a couple of things but which ref doesn't ?

The throw was down to his assistant , neither of which were particularly good.

The trouble is consistency between refs. Ball to hand results in pens away at both Sheff and Preston but not at home yet. Maher would have been booked on several diiferent occasions by other refs for dissent. Daryl gets booked for time wasting colgan doesn't.

The trouble is that if a ref is lenient he gets it for not being hard on the opposition, if he is strict he gets it for being hard on us.........

 

[Beefy]

I thought the ref was pretty good generally. One of the better ones we've had this season. His assistant in the South-West corner was dreadful though. Absolutely shocking.

 

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

I felt the ref was fine first half , he didn't fling the cards around like a lot of refs and on many occassions interpreted the advantage (or lack of) very well.
He missed a couple of things but which ref doesn't ?

The throw was down to his assistant , neither of which were particularly good.

The trouble is consistency between refs. Ball to hand results in pens away at both Sheff and Preston but not at home yet. Maher would have been booked on several diiferent occasions by other refs for dissent. Daryl gets booked for time wasting colgan doesn't.

The trouble is that if a ref is lenient he gets it for not being hard on the opposition, if he is strict he gets it for being hard on us.........

I may well be wrong, and if so shoot me down in flames, but isn't deliberate handball a bookable offence and therefore he should have sent off the Barnsley player and booked JCR. FWIW I think he bottled the 1st one totally, and then had no option other than to not book JCR. A clear case of 2 wrongs definitely not making a right.

 

[Kris]

I may well be wrong, and if so shoot me down in flames, but isn't deliberate handball a bookable offence and therefore he should have sent off the Barnsley player and booked JCR. FWIW I think he bottled the 1st one totally, and then had no option other than to not book JCR. A clear case of 2 wrongs definitely not making a right.

I didn't have a good view of the Howard incident so can't really comment but like I said in my previous post, I think the ref was right not to book JCR. Had it happened in either penalty area then it would have been a certain yellow but because JCR was in a completely anonymous area of the pitch and not really trying to cheat - it was an act of pure frustration because Bradbury's pass was overhit and didn't even try to continue playing - it was a free-kick but nothing more.

 

[Davros]

I thought the lino completely bottled it when AL Mac got taken out after he passed the ball... the lino must have been looking there, else how would he knwon who the ball had come off had someone blocked als pass?!?!

 

[Jam_Man]

Thought the ref was ok to be honest and am getting peeved with people around me putting all responsibilty of us losing each game down to the refs. If we were doing the business on the pitch we wouldnt be analysing every decision that doesnt go our way.

I sit just above the "throw" and to be honest thought it had been kept it in but even so there was still plenty of time for us to defend the attack.

 

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

I didn't have a good view of the Howard incident so can't really comment but like I said in my previous post, I think the ref was right not to book JCR. Had it happened in either penalty area then it would have been a certain yellow but because JCR was in a completely anonymous area of the pitch and not really trying to cheat - it was an act of pure frustration because Bradbury's pass was overhit and didn't even try to continue playing - it was a free-kick but nothing more.

If it is an automatic yellow for deliberate handball, then they should both have been booked.

Thought the ref was ok to be honest and am getting peeved with people around me putting all responsibilty of us losing each game down to the refs. If we were doing the business on the pitch we wouldnt be analysing every decision that doesnt go our way.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to lay the blame for Saturday's defeat at the feet of the officials, however had the ref made the correct decision with the handball, then the game could have turned out different.

 

[Mick]

I may well be wrong, and if so shoot me down in flames, but isn't deliberate handball a bookable offence.

er ..... NO.

Handball is not handball if it is not deliberate.

Handball has to be something else other than just handball to attract additional sanctions over and above a direct freekick/penalty. For example, denying a goal or unsporting conduct.

 

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

er ..... NO.

Handball is not handball if it is not deliberate.

Handball has to be something else other than just handball to attract additional sanctions over and above a direct freekick/penalty. For example, denying a goal or unsporting conduct.

Fair enough, but in that case, should Saturday's incident been classed as unsporting conduct ?

 

[BoyWonder2]

The lino in front of the East, missed the ball going out for a throw in and the late tackle on McCormack because he wasn't watching the play at all. When the ball went out, he was looking along our back four for no reason at all and on the late tackle on McCormack he was talking to the 4th official.

He was a cheating little ****!