Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

[Tangled up in Blue]

Is it possible in your opinion to be Left wing but not support Corbyn?

The reason I ask is that he did not have a tremendous amount of support from his own MP's last year...are those MP's Tories in disguise?

Yes of course.You only have to look at about 2/3's of the current PLP to see that.

Hopefully, from Conference onwards in September, there will be a lot more visible support for JC and his policies,from the Labour movement in general and the PLP in particular.

It looks like the Unions,the Labour movement and the Country are now moving behind him.Time for the PLP to get on board I think.

There is an argument on the left, (which I don't necessarily endorse), to the effect that if the PLP had supported JC more fully in the 2 years before this year's general election,then Labour could have won it.Makes you think though.

 

[Polish_Blues]

Look at Venzelua, they are a country that is ****ed up by their communist (socialist) PM, yet your Hero praised him. I remember our country run by communist in the 1980's & it's was the darkest years for Poland, we are much better than over 30 years ago!

Think UK had a lucky escape not to have him as PM.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Look at Venzelua, they are a country that is ****ed up by their communist (socialist) PM, yet your Hero praised him. I remember our country run by communist in the 1980's & it's was the darkest years for Poland, we are much better than over 30 years ago!

Think UK had a lucky escape not to have him as PM.

Two very different forms of politics. It's sad that people see Socialism and equate it with Stalin & Mao.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Look at Venzelua, they are a country that is ****ed up by their communist (socialist) PM, yet your Hero praised him. I remember our country run by communist in the 1980's & it's was the darkest years for Poland, we are much better than over 30 years ago!

Think UK had a lucky escape not to have him as PM.

Any comparisons between Venezuela,Poland and the UK in terms of Socialism are half baked to say the least.

While JC has praised Chavez it's not true ( as far as I'm aware) that he has praised Maduro.

Worth mentioning that contemporary Poland has its own political problems too.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Look at Venzelua, they are a country that is ****ed up by their communist (socialist) PM, yet your Hero praised him. I remember our country run by communist in the 1980's & it's was the darkest years for Poland, we are much better than over 30 years ago!

Think UK had a lucky escape not to have him as PM.

And not to mention our serving PM is selling arms to a country that is funding terrorism here and around the Western World and carrying out atrocities in Yemen, but JC gets pilloried. :thumbsup:

 

[Benfleet A1]

And not to mention our serving PM is selling arms to a country that is funding terrorism here and around the Western World and carrying out atrocities in Yemen, but JC gets pilloried. :thumbsup:

And Russia and China fund the rest. What's your point exactly, condemnation for us but forgiveness for those 'socialist' nations that do the very same thing but as Corbyn speaks up for them then thats ok?

 

[MK Shrimper]

And Russia and China fund the rest. What's your point exactly, condemnation for us but forgiveness for those 'socialist' nations that do the very same thing but as Corbyn speaks up for them then thats ok?

What I'm saying is that the press has a go at Corbyn over Venezuala, but gives May a free ride over Saudi. Double standards from the RW press as per usual.

 

[Gremlin]

While JC has praised Chavez it's not true ( as far as I'm aware) that he has praised Maduro.

He barely knows the bloke.
https://order-order.com/2017/08/02/...dictator-maduro-state-tv-propaganda-broadast/

And not to mention our serving PM is selling arms to a country that is funding terrorism here and around the Western World and carrying out atrocities in Yemen, but JC gets pilloried. :thumbsup:

Ah, the old Owen Jones defence. Quick, over there! Look! Something else!

 

[Benfleet A1]

What I'm saying is that the press has a go at Corbyn over Venezuala, but gives May a free ride over Saudi. Double standards from the RW press as per usual.

I agree, it is double standards, most if not all of the press, right or left report to their own agenda, I object to those on here with brains bigger than garden peas blaming one side in the belief that the other are going to be our saviours. If Corbyn becomes PM he will have wise up real quick to the fact that dealing with the unsavory is part and parcel of government whether he likes it or not. Morals will have no part to play.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Ah, the old Owen Jones defence. Quick, over there! Look! Something else!

Think you'll find David Cameron's former-campaign manager Lyton Crosby invented that one.Known as the "dead cat" strategy.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I agree, it is double standards, most if not all of the press, right or left report to their own agenda, I object to those on here with brains bigger than garden peas blaming one side in the belief that the other are going to be our saviours. If Corbyn becomes PM he will have wise up real quick to the fact that dealing with the unsavory is part and parcel of government whether he likes it or not. Morals will have no part to play.

Are you a Corbynista now? :winking:

 

[Bearded Shrimper]

Quite frankly I'm amazed that a Labour party member is digging up dirt against his own party.

Thought that's what Tories were supposed to do? :winking:

typical of you lot. instead of trying to answer even mildly difficult questions you attack the person asking it.
So we should just always be partisan and throw **** at the other side should we? that's your answer is it?

 

[Gremlin]

It's sad that people see Socialism and equate it with Stalin & Mao.

Not everyone does. I equate it with hyper-inflation, massive unemployment and the deaths of civilians and political opponents.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

typical of you lot. instead of trying to answer even mildly difficult questions you attack the person asking it.
So we should just always be partisan and throw **** at the other side should we? that's your answer is it?

who is 'you lot'? Surely everyone on here is posting on behalf of themselves rather than as a spokesperson for anyone else.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

typical of you lot. instead of trying to answer even mildly difficult questions you attack the person asking it.
So we should just always be partisan and throw **** at the other side should we? that's your answer is it?

Quite frankly comrade, I think you'd be much better off saving your ammunition for the right-wingers on SZ (and there are loads), rather than targetting those on the left (like me and a few others).

 

[callan]

Quite frankly comrade, I think you'd be much better off saving your ammunition for the right-wingers on SZ (and there are loads), rather than targetting thos on the left (like me and a couple of others).

Perhaps you should provide a list of Zoners that you believe should be targeted?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Perhaps you should provide a list of Zoners that you believe should be targeted?

Ha! You'd be on it.:smile:

Btw I prefer the BE spelling of targetted not the AE one targeted.:winking:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Not everyone does. I equate it with hyper-inflation, massive unemployment and the deaths of civilians and political opponents.

Blairism must have been a huge disappointment for you.As it was for the rest of us.:thumbdown:

 

[southendkid]

Remember that story where Corbyn claimed there were no seats on a Virgin train and then Branson released a clip saying that he was lying? Someone requested the CCTV footage and 7 months later Virgin have finally sent it to them, it seems to indicate Corbyn was telling the truth after all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47fqjA8CwGE&feature=youtu.be

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Remember that story where Corbyn claimed there were no seats on a Virgin train and then Branson released a clip saying that he was lying? Someone requested the CCTV footage and 7 months later Virgin have finally sent it to them, it seems to indicate Corbyn was telling the truth after all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47fqjA8CwGE&feature=youtu.be

Never doubted JC's version of Traingate myself.