Hattrick

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Barmy Army @ June 02 2004,15:24)]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,14:09)]Bet you didn't read MtS' post. You gave up after the second paragraph didn't you?

No I actually read it all.

Unlike yourself my concentration span is slightly longer than that of a gnat.

That's very harsh...



... on gnats.

Wahey - can we have a "bash steveh129874-0983" day?

Matt

P.S. Glad you found my ramblings of some help, BA!

 

[steveh1510]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ June 02 2004,15:34)]

Quote[/b] (Barmy Army @ June 02 2004,15:24)]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,14:09)]Bet you didn't read MtS' post. You gave up after the second paragraph didn't you?

No I actually read it all.

Unlike yourself my concentration span is slightly longer than that of a gnat.

That's very harsh...



... on gnats.

 

Wahey - can we have a "bash steveh129874-0983" day?

Matt

P.S. Glad you found my ramblings of some help, BA!

Barmy Army - chill out, I was kidding, I read it all and found it very informative. I was extracting the Michael from Matt, and he knows I'm only mucking about.

It's too easy on this board sometimes!

 

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,15:39)]It's too easy on this board sometimes!  

you should try reading it upside down and under water

 

[steveh1510]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ June 02 2004,15:40)]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,15:39)]It's too easy on this board sometimes!  

you should try reading it upside down and under water

What's the point in that? Weirdo.

 

[Barmy Army]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,15:39)]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ June 02 2004,15:34)]

Quote[/b] (Barmy Army @ June 02 2004,15:24)]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,14:09)]Bet you didn't read MtS' post. You gave up after the second paragraph didn't you?

No I actually read it all.

Unlike yourself my concentration span is slightly longer than that of a gnat.

That's very harsh...



... on gnats.

Wahey - can we have a "bash steveh129874-0983" day?

Matt

P.S. Glad you found my ramblings of some help, BA!

Barmy Army - chill out, I was kidding, I read it all and found it very informative. I was extracting the Michael from Matt, and he knows I'm only mucking about.

It's too easy on this board sometimes!

I was kidding as well.

You can't throw all your sarcastic ramblings out there and not take some back in.

 

[steveh1510]

Quote[/b] (Barmy Army @ June 02 2004,16:04)]You can't throw all your sarcastic ramblings out there and not take some back in.

I can if I want.

 

[Barmy Army]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,16:05)]

Quote[/b] (Barmy Army @ June 02 2004,16:04)]You can't throw all your sarcastic ramblings out there and not take some back in.

I can if I want.

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,15:39)]I was extracting the Michael from Matt

How did you know one of my names was Michael...?!

You've been looking at my post, Napster's been looking at my record collection... you're like scary non-identical twins you two...

 

 

[steveh1510]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ June 02 2004,17:06)]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,15:39)]I was extracting the Michael from Matt

How did you know one of my names was Michael...?!

You've been looking at my post, Napster's been looking at my record collection... you're like scary non-identical twins you two...

 

We know where you live, Matt.

 

[Kent Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ June 02 2004,12:56)]

Quote[/b] (Barmy Army @ June 02 2004,12:34)]Currently I'm not in any debt with my team.  Will I have to go into debt to advance out of Level 6 and become a bigger club?

You shouldn't need to get into debt to go from Level VI to Level V - but I don't know, since I was lucky enough to be given a Level V club to start off with.

You won't need to have to go into debt either if you have a fabulous youth pull, whom you sell for a lot of money.

The way to really progress in Hattrick is to have an excellent youth team, and to get a solid coach.  Both of these are expensive.

The youth team is just a necessary evil in Hattrick - you just write off £13,333 every week in order to make your youth team as strong as possible.  Because, of course, once it is "excellent", that's when you start making really good youth-pulls from it.

And with those, that's how you get a good team, or lots of revenue from sales.  However, if you're to turn those youth pulls into good players quickly, you need a solid coach to do that.

Solid coaches don't come cheap.  If you're bringing one in from outside, for example, a solid coach with passable leadership will cost you £1.2m, a solid coach with solid leadership about £1.7m.

I'm lucky, in that one of my players has solid leadership & solid experience, so I can make him my next coach.  However, to train him up and make him a solid coach will cost me £530K - hence why, I imagine, I'll go into some debt by training him up.

I'm not in debt at the moment, I should add - I'm £32K in the black on this week's figures.

However, once the balancing act of selling players (which may raise £350-£400K) and training my coach (£530K) has been taken into account, I still reckon I'll be in the red this season.

However, it's a necessary evil which I'm prepared to accept, and which I'll be able to get out of reasonably quickly.  After all, if I fill my stadium once a fortnight, I balance out my costs pretty quickly.  On a fornightly basis:

Revenue: full stadium (35,000) - £155K
sponsors - £80K
TOTAL - £235K

Costs (arena, wages, staff, youth squad): £170K

So, on a fotnightly basis, I'm £65K in the black - which is why, I guess, I'm not too worried about going into a bit of debt in order to pay for my solid coach.

Incidentally, I first went in the red this season to expand my stadium, and that's one of the other things you'll need to do in order to progress... because, of course, the better your players are, the higher their wages get - and you can only pay for those wages if you're getting enough bums on seats in your stadium.  So, I spent about £190K earlier this season expanding capacity to 35,000.

Having sold out last weekend, and getting £158K as a result... I can definitely say it's worth it!

Hope all that helps you in the economy stakes!

Matt

Matt,

Out of interest how many spokesman do you have?

Cheers
Andy

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,17:08)]We know where you live, Matt.

Perhaps. But since neither of you can be arsed to leave the Spread of a weekday evening, I'm not losing any sleep...

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Kent Shrimper @ June 02 2004,17:19)]Matt,

Out of interest how many spokesman do you have?

Cheers
Andy

I've gone for 3, Andy - and it seems to have paid dividends. I used only to have 1, and then I'd get between 9-12 fans joining the supporters' club per week.

Since getting 2 more spokesmen, I've had 20 fans joining per week - so it seems to be working!

Can't say my research on spokesmen has been any more scientific than that, however...

Matt

 

[Napster]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,15:41)]

Quote[/b] (Napster @ June 02 2004,15:40)]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,15:39)]It's too easy on this board sometimes!  

you should try reading it upside down and under water

What's the point in that?

makes Leeboy's posts almost interesting.

 

[steveh1510]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ June 02 2004,17:20)]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,17:08)]We know where you live, Matt.

Perhaps.  But since neither of you can be arsed to leave the Spread of a weekday evening

Yes, I'm regularly in the Spread of a weekday evening, I find the trip from Basildon worth every minute when I see the fabulous decor of the place.

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,17:25)]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ June 02 2004,17:20)]

Quote[/b] (steveh1510 @ June 02 2004,17:08)]We know where you live, Matt.

Perhaps.  But since neither of you can be arsed to leave the Spread of a weekday evening

Yes, I'm regularly in the Spread of a weekday evening, I find the trip from Basildon worth every minute when I see the fabulous decor of the place.

Thought so. At least that's what your eery, almost non-identical, twin told me...