Greens elect new leader

[Tangled up in Blue]

The idea that the Greens are a serious party is ridiculous.

Surely all parties in GB politics are serious with the exception of The Monster Raving Looney Party?:unsure:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

...then they are aiming way too high. I imagine the over/under line on total seats for the Greens at the next general election being about 1.5

That's probably a realistic assessment but watch out for a possible shock in Dudley.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Seriously? Her policies as presented at the last election would lead to economic ruin. The Greens are the marxist party hiding behind an environmental agenda.

Seriously.Speaking personally, the Green's environmental and economic policy make more sense to me that the "economic illiteracy" practised by Boy George.

 

[Napster]

Seriously.Speaking personally, the Green's enviromental and economic policy make more sense to me that the "economic illiteracy" practised by Boy George.

I do hope the Greens are literate and can spell environmental.

:hilarious:

 

[Napster]

Surely all parties in GB politics are serious with the exception of The Monster Raving Looney Party?:unsure:

Really? The Greens are a one-issue party. At least the Loonies had a number of policies, some of which were serious enough to be implemented in legislature. (Pet passports for one).

 

[Jam_Man]

Think the tidal wave of environmentalism has subsided somewhat recently.

Think any momentum they had will be gone.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

The idea that Barna Blue is a serious poster is ridiculous.

:whistling:

More tiresome abuse.
Blueblood,
Why not join the arguement if you have something to say?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Really? The Greens are a one-issue party. At least the Loonies had a number of policies, some of which were serious enough to be implemented in legislature. (Pet passports for one).

Read the Green's manifesto or recent statments on policy issues and you'll see they're no longer a one-issue party at all.On the Continent, in Germany especially but also in France they've made significant political gains.Even in Spain they've joined forces with the United Left party(Izquerda Unida)and regularly poll up to 10% of the vote.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I do hope the Greens are literate and can spell environmental.

:hilarious:

Tee hee.Typo.Refuse to use a spell checker.

 

[Neil_F]

Read the Green's manifesto or recent statments on policy issues and you'll see they're no longer a one-issue party at all.

I have read it. It would mean every working person in the country paying hundreds of pounds more in tax per year. Higher rate taxpayers (approx £40k per annum) would get hammered to the tune of several thousands of pounds per year.

This is before we even get on to the madness of local food production, forced reductions (rationing) in household electricity use etc

The Green party objective is for a more equal society where everyone is poor.

 

[BLUEBLOOD]

More tiresome abuse.
Blueblood,
Why not join the arguement if you have something to say?

Abuse ?? get over yourself ... you said to me once i need to get a sense of humour or words to that effect

Try practising what you preach you miserable old ****er

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Abuse ?? get over yourself ... you said to me once i need to get a sense of humour or words to that effect

Try practising what you preach you miserable old ****er

Ok.Ridicule.Sorry.But the same point applies.What do you have to say about this issue?(Nothing I suspect).

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I have read it. It would mean every working person in the country paying hundreds of pounds more in tax per year. Higher rate taxpayers (approx £40k per annum) would get hammered to the tune of several thousands of pounds per year.

This is before we even get on to the madness of local food production, forced reductions (rationing) in household electricity use etc

The Green party objective is for a more equal society where everyone is poor.

No,I think they're more interested in sustainable development.Even Obama has flirted with green polities in the US.Granted green investment might be more expensive in the short run but in the medium/long term these policies may be the only realistic way out of the current world wide recession.

 

[BLUEBLOOD]

Ok.Ridicule.Sorry.But the same point applies.What do you have to say about this issue?(Nothing I suspect).

Its a laughable thread ... the Greens have as much chance of wielding power as i have of becoming Pope Lee I

 

[Neil_F]

No,I think they're more interested in sustainable development.Even Obama has flirted with green polities in the US.Granted green investment might be more expensive in the short run but in the medium/long term these policies may be the only realistic way out of the current world wide recession.

You clearly haven't read their manifesto. The reality is that they want a more equal society and are prepared to achieve that by making everyone poor. That is what their economic policy would achieve.

Their environmental policies are also focused on rationing demand rather increasing supply of clean(er) energy. Their approach is classically Malthusian.

I just don't understand it at all. Their policies would lead to mass unemployment, an exploded budget deficit, a totally uncompetitive economy and the IMF having the bail us out. At the same time everyone would be forced to ration the use of electricity (at an increasing rate year-on-year) and nearly starve to death because food imports would be restricted (limiting supply and pushing up food prices and inflation in years of bad UK harvest - for example this year when it chucked it down all summer).

It's alright though, because they mean well.... why do lefties measure everything by intention? If someone means well but their actions have the opposite effect to their intention it doesn't seem to matter. The most extreme example is when lefties defend Mao because his intentions were good. The fact he killed 70 million people never seems to be relevant.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

You clearly haven't read their manifesto. .

Fair is worth fighting for? Yes,I have actually.

http://www.greenparty.org.uk/policies.html

 

[canveyshrimper]

Surely all parties in GB politics are serious with the exception of The Monster Raving Looney Party?:unsure:

One or two Looney policies have actually become law such as lowering the voting age to 18.

 

[Benfleet A1]

Fair is worth fighting for?

Are you seriously suggesting, after what Neil F has stated, that Maoist polices that in affect starved and worked millions to death would be a good idea to pursue in the name of fair?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Its a laughable thread ... the Greens have as much chance of wielding power as i have of becoming Pope Lee I

I don't think anybody(certainly not myself) has ever expected them to "wield" power.If they pick up the 10 seats they're aiming for at the next GE they could however hold the balance of power,very much like the Lib-Dems today.RAB Butler described politics as "the art of the possible."While that is very much the case until the election results are in, it's also very much the art of the hypothetical too.That's what makes it so interesting.Let's face it the Tories are not going to win an absolute majority at the next GE.What happens after that is anyone's guess.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Are you seriously suggesting, after what Neil F has stated, that Maoist polices that in affect starved and worked millions to death would be a good idea to pursue in the name of fair?

"Fair is worth Fighting For" happens to be the title of the Green's 2010 election manifesto.That's all I'm stating.I'm not suggesting anything.