General Boxing Thread

[Ricey]

I’m not so sure about the ticket sales. Vegas is pretty much back to pre-pandemic levels when it comes to sports and concerts, and their tourism has come roaring back too. I can’t imagine they were struggling to shift tickets, but obviously I wouldn’t rule it out.

Honestly, I see this more as mind games/**** taking from Fury’s side. Wilder is mentally shot IMO & this will only further dent that spurious confidence of his.

I saw a picture of the availability for tickets and there was a lot!

I do wonder about the timing of the pictures and whether they were taken before and people are on a wind up. Seems strange it hasn’t been covered or picked up by any of the big boxing coverage people.

 

[GBJ]

I saw a picture of the availability for tickets and there was a lot!

I do wonder about the timing of the pictures and whether they were taken before and people are on a wind up. Seems strange it hasn’t been covered or picked up by any of the big boxing coverage people.

Little unknown fact, but when a Vegas fight isn’t selling too well, the casinos will take big quantities of tickets and use them to comp people (big spenders).

For example, if you went into one of the nightclubs inside that casino, they will always try and offer you bottle service (which just means private table/booth, for an extraordinary mark up) and they will throw the tickets in as a sweetener.

And it’s not just boxing/MMA either. They do the same for a myriad of other performances. It works incredibly well & is one of the reasons why you don’t see Vegas fights/concerts/shows with low turnouts.

 

[Ricey]

I just hope we don’t have a repeat of Tyson after the Klitschko fight.

 

[Ricky Otto]

Joshua v Usyk announced for September, how do people think this one will go?

 

[Ricey]

Joshua v Usyk announced for September, how do people think this one will go?

Tough to say really, I’d probably favour Joshua because he is the bigger man. Usyk didn’t look that great against Chisora but who does look great against him, he’s the boogey man of the division. I think had Usyk had a few more fights at heavy and looked decent I would be favouring him. He’s looking bigger but he’s still very small and can be clipped as we saw from Chisora.

Id go Joshua by points or KO.

 

[Ricey]

Luke Campbell just announced his retirement from boxing.

 

[stewart]

Well yesterday i watched a boxer who runs faster than Mayweather, Guillermo Rigondeaaux ,what a poor mans excuse for a boxer ,sorry but he should take up athletics.What a farce of a fight.

 

[GBJ]

Well yesterday i watched a boxer who runs faster than Mayweather, Guillermo Rigondeaaux ,what a poor mans excuse for a boxer ,sorry but he should take up athletics.What a farce of a fight.

Lomachenko took his heart a few years ago. Hasn’t been the same since.

Rigo, up until that point, was one of the best P4P in the world.

 

[stewart]

Lomachenko took his heart a few years ago. Hasn’t been the same since.

Rigo, up until that point, was one of the best P4P in the world.

Certainly not now sorry

 

[stewart]

Lomachenko took his heart a few years ago. Hasn’t been the same since.

Rigo, up until that point, was one of the best P4P in the world.

He will find it hard to get fights on that performance , no promoter will want him

 

[GBJ]

Certainly not now sorry

Agreed, he’s nowhere near that level anymore.

For someone who had such immense talent, it was never acknowledged, showcased or recognised on the world stage.

 

[GBJ]

He will find it hard to get fights on that performance , no promoter will want him

Promoters have always struggled to promote Rigo. Most of the big names avoided him during his run, and his style wasn’t conducive to what is deemed sellable. Two major factors which stunted what should have been a far more glitzy career.

He’s still one of, if not the best amateur’s of all time, and If you’re in any doubt about just how good he was, just have a search for what Freddie Roach thought about him.

 

[Ricey]

As GBJ said Rigo is one of the greatest amateurs of all time and his record speaks for itself. Double Olympic gold and double gold at the World Champs. I think he had around 500 amateur fights only losing 12.

Life isn’t easy for Cuban boxers if they want to turn pro. But Rigo turned pro and was world champion a number of times beating the likes of the legend that is Nonito Donaire. But again as GBJ said he came up against another great amateur and someone who is an unreal fighter as a professional and after a collection of wins by fighters quitting on the stool he was nicknamed Nomaschenko, it really took everything out of Rigo.

Unfortunately these lower weight boxers unless they have a outside ring presence like a Ryan Garcia, Tank or Teo they’re never going to be big ticket sellers. Lomachenko and Rigo off their amateur backgrounds should sell out quicker than AJ does against anyone but only the boxing purists know about them and they try to live off their records and that’s just not enough.

Rigo will fight on again but nothing of note. AJ probably earned more fighting 15 bin men than Rigo has in his whole career which is sad because as Freddie Roach said Rigo is one of the most talented boxers he’s ever seen. He really was but unfortunately I don’t think his head is in it anymore.

 

[GBJ]

As GBJ said Rigo is one of the greatest amateurs of all time and his record speaks for itself. Double Olympic gold and double gold at the World Champs. I think he had around 500 amateur fights only losing 12.

Life isn’t easy for Cuban boxers if they want to turn pro. But Rigo turned pro and was world champion a number of times beating the likes of the legend that is Nonito Donaire. But again as GBJ said he came up against another great amateur and someone who is an unreal fighter as a professional and after a collection of wins by fighters quitting on the stool he was nicknamed Nomaschenko, it really took everything out of Rigo.

Unfortunately these lower weight boxers unless they have a outside ring presence like a Ryan Garcia, Tank or Teo they’re never going to be big ticket sellers. Lomachenko and Rigo off their amateur backgrounds should sell out quicker than AJ does against anyone but only the boxing purists know about them and they try to live off their records and that’s just not enough.

Rigo will fight on again but nothing of note. AJ probably earned more fighting 15 bin men than Rigo has in his whole career which is sad because as Freddie Roach said Rigo is one of the most talented boxers he’s ever seen. He really was but unfortunately I don’t think his head is in it anymore.

Exactly this.

I’ll never forget Quigg and Frampton’s rise to superiority at Super Bantam, which eventually culminated in their much anticipated decider. A genuine 50:50, between two outstanding fighters who were undoubtedly at the top of that elite level.

But one of the biggest blemishes on both of their careers, was ducking Rigo.

Don’t forget that even Sky wouldn’t dare mention his name back then. The general belief was Adam Smith had told his guys not to ? Whether that’s true or not, who knows, but the fact remains that Sky used to get pelters for it, and they were never bothered about changing that perception.

Even Kiko Martinez, the little, fearless Spaniard didn’t want no parts of Rigo.

His professional career, in my mind, will always be one that was never realised to it’s truest potential. You can put this down to a couple of different factors (that we’ve touched upon), but the truth is he should have been as big a star as Floyd Mayweather was/is.

In fact, in a P4P discussion, people should have been debating who was the better of the two.

As for the Loma fight, that Rigo performance to me was the product of being down trodden, disrespected & castigated for his entire pro career.

When two good fighters eventually meet, like Quigg and Frampton for example, it usually comes after several years of working their way to the top, honing their skills & learning how to cope with the pressure of being an elite level fighter.

Rigo’s path was the polar opposite of that, and unfortunately for him, he ran into a future Hall of Famer, who like Rigo, was an anomaly himself

 

[stewart]

Exactly this.

I’ll never forget Quigg and Frampton’s rise to superiority at Super Bantam, which eventually culminated in their much anticipated decider. A genuine 50:50, between two outstanding fighters who were undoubtedly at the top of that elite level.

But one of the biggest blemishes on both of their careers, was ducking Rigo.

Don’t forget that even Sky wouldn’t dare mention his name back then. The general belief was Adam Smith had told his guys not to ? Whether that’s true or not, who knows, but the fact remains that Sky used to get pelters for it, and they were never bothered about changing that perception.

Even Kiko Martinez, the little, fearless Spaniard didn’t want no parts of Rigo.

His professional career, in my mind, will always be one that was never realised to it’s truest potential. You can put this down to a couple of different factors (that we’ve touched upon), but the truth is he should have been as big a star as Floyd Mayweather was/is.

In fact, in a P4P discussion, people should have been debating who was the better of the two.

As for the Loma fight, that Rigo performance to me was the product of being down trodden, disrespected & castigated for his entire pro career.

When two good fighters eventually meet, like Quigg and Frampton for example, it usually comes after several years of working their way to the top, honing their skills & learning how to cope with the pressure of being an elite level fighter.

Rigo’s path was the polar opposite of that, and unfortunately for him, he ran into a future Hall of Famer, who like Rigo, was an anomaly himself

2 very enlightening reads ,thankyou both ,i saw a little of his boxing skills during the fight and kept wondering to myself WHY does he keep running and not turn it into a proper boxing match,its the running that lost him the fight

 

[stewart]

I think its time for MP to hang up his gloves now and concentrate on his politics, He couldnt get passed Ugas long reach, in his younger days the reach wouldnt have worried him , You cannot hold back the years they will always finally catch up with you. You have been a great champion MP and inspired a nation of young people and im sure you will again in your next chosen career. On boxing diod anyone see the Magsayo v Ceja fight, what abeautiful knockout it was .Magsayo is MPs protege,trained by Roche.

 

[Ricey]

Boxing is on its absolute arse! Oscar Valdez pops for a banned substance Phentermine to aid with weight loss. The fight has been sanctioned to go ahead! Absolutely shocking decision! I know it’s not a steroid but still it’s cheating and shouldn’t be allowed to go ahead. If he can’t make the weight he should move up weight!

 

[Ricey]

Anyone seen the Thriller fight planned for this weekend?

Originally it was Oscar De La Hoya v Vitor Belfort, Oscar got Covid and pulled out a couple of days ago and Evander Holyfield stepped in at late notice. 17 years ago he lost his boxing licence due to poor performance and diminishing skills. He has now been given a licence to fight!

And to top it all off they have Donald Trump on coms for the fight!

 

[The Big Dady]

Just watched a couple of great fights on Channel 5 "Hennessy All-Stars event at Coventry Skydome Arena"

Stevie McKenna v Moussa Gary
Sam Eggington v Bilel Jkitou (WBC Silver Middleweight title)

 

[GDM]

Just watched a couple of great fights on Channel 5 "Hennessy All-Stars event at Coventry Skydome Arena"

Stevie McKenna v Moussa Gary
Sam Eggington v Bilel Jkitou (WBC Silver Middleweight title)

Eggington was in a potential fight of the year - never disappoints but I worry for his long term health the amount he gets hit.
Not sure I enjoyed the McKenna fight, little boxing still on show there and a real wild swinger (makes Conner Benn look like Floyd)

It was actually a busy weekend of boxing, a couple of DAZN shows Friday and Saturday, this one on Saturday, then the robbery in the US...not only is it OK to fight on drugs but its ok to lose too and still get the decision, boxing really doesn't help itself sometimes!