Question Gary Hooper ?

[buffalowolf]

I read in a paper today that both Liverpool and Newcastle are interested in signing Gary Hooper come the January transfer window. I wondered him being an ex Southend reject ,Did the manager at Southend at that time have any idea on a players talent , after all he wasnt the first one he let go that has done well at other clubs.And thinking back didnt Gary Hooper score 2 goals on his debut for Southend at that time.:omg:

 

[SUFCFANS]

Hooper was given plenty of chances at Southend..

 

[philtalkin]

He got some right and some wrong.

All managers have released players, who have gone on to do well elsewhere. What is your point?

 

[OldBlueLady]

Hooper was given plenty of chances at Southend..

He really didn't, this has been done to death on here. Ok, he may have got a few games, but not with any consistent starts, and playing as the support for Freddy (v Man U) but also for Matt Harrold. Because Harrold never did anything here, Hooper was similarly lumbered with the same opinion. We never played Hooper as a main striker.

 

[Rattus Norvegicus]

He really didn't, this has been done to death on here. Ok, he may have got a few games, but not with any consistent starts, and playing as the support for Freddy (v Man U) but also for Matt Harrold. Because Harrold never did anything here, Hooper was similarly lumbered with the same opinion. We never played Hooper as a main striker.

Memory is a strange thing ..... but I feel (quite) sure that I saw Hooper playing up front against Leeds at Leeds in the League cup ...... and he scored ...... and we won 2-1 (? might be wrong there) ...........

..... on second thoughts ignore all that above - you are right, this subject has been chewed over more times than gas tariffs by energy ministers ................

 

[Ayrshire Blue]

Oh, this thread again :facepalm:

 

[Shrimper2thecore]

Hooper was given plenty of chances at Southend..

No, he wasn't

 

[thenobster]

Hooper was never given a chance...add him to the list of 'what ifs'

 

[rlb999]

Hooper was given 32 chances at Southend and like many other forwards of that era, didn't do the business because of the way Tilson set his teams up (not a criticism). He's certainly not the only Tilson player to go and be a success elsewhere under different management - as I've said previously Tilson had an impressive record at getting talent in, but not at doing anything with it once he'd got it.
That said, surely Hooper can't survive in the Prem? The SPL is no better than league 2 - the fact that Vernon and Foran succeed in the SPL shows this. If I were Celtic and someone offers me a few £m, I'd cash in and go sign someone like Charlie Austin for peanuts.

 

[buffalowolf]

Sorry Philtalkin , but living where i do in Melbourne i cannot always keep up with the ins and outs there ,i did however remember he was at Southend for a time ,and i have no idea what sort of manager Tilson was.:blush:

 

[leeblue]

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[Strykr]

Deja vu thread.......

I thought he was crap every time he played for us.

He clearly isnt crap tho. And good luck to him.

Sometimes the face doesnt fit ala paynter.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

He was crap, he left, he got good. Plenty of us would slate a manager for keep playing someone who was crap. In this case Tilly didn't get slated as he got rid of the crap player. He then got good, so full respect for him for turning it around. Not missed though as when he played for us.....he was crap.

 

[Pubey]

Indeed, I can't remember seeing a single person on here being disappointed when he was sold for a bit of cash.

 

[Jam_Man]

He was crap, he left, he got good. Plenty of us would slate a manager for keep playing someone who was crap. In this case Tilly didn't get slated as he got rid of the crap player. He then got good, so full respect for him for turning it around. Not missed though as when he played for us.....he was crap.

Thing was he wasnt crap.

I wasnt fussed when he left and never saw much in him when he played, yet he scored loads in both loans he went out on with us so he clearly had something.

We never gave him a decent run up front, when he did play it was more than often out wide.

Unfortunately one of Tilsons biggest errors of judgements, but all managers make them and I wasnt complaining when he was let go, and there was hardly an outpouring of anger on here either.

It happens....

 

[southendkid]

Hooper was given 32 chances at Southend and like many other forwards of that era, didn't do the business because of the way Tilson set his teams up (not a criticism). He's certainly not the only Tilson player to go and be a success elsewhere under different management - as I've said previously Tilson had an impressive record at getting talent in, but not at doing anything with it once he'd got it.
That said, surely Hooper can't survive in the Prem? The SPL is no better than league 2 - the fact that Vernon and Foran succeed in the SPL shows this. If I were Celtic and someone offers me a few £m, I'd cash in and go sign someone like Charlie Austin for peanuts.

Debatable, being the third top goalscorer in the championship when your team finishes 20th suggests he may be able to net a few in the Prem, he's never going to be Wayne Rooney, but for a weaker Premiership side he can probably do a job.

 

[RobB11]

Of course Hooper could cut it in the prem. Do you see the goals he scores? He's one of the best finishers in the game at the moment. If he could get in the positions (no reason why he wouldn't) to score goals in the prem then he would score. Yes the spl is a poor standard but he's scored in the champions league (away in russia too, no mean feat), that proves he can cut it at the top level.

 

[BaileytheQuitter]

Of course Hooper could cut it in the prem. Do you see the goals he scores? He's one of the best finishers in the game at the moment. If he could get in the positions (no reason why he wouldn't) to score goals in the prem then he would score. Yes the spl is a poor standard but he's scored in the champions league (away in russia too, no mean feat), that proves he can cut it at the top level.

No it doesn't. Cutting it at the top level will prove whether he can cut it.

 

[Beefy]

He was crap, he left, he got good. Plenty of us would slate a manager for keep playing someone who was crap. In this case Tilly didn't get slated as he got rid of the crap player. He then got good, so full respect for him for turning it around. Not missed though as when he played for us.....he was crap.

He wasn't crap when he was with us and, personally, I didn't think he was crap the few times he got a chance with us. Had he have been crap back then then he wouldn't have scored all those goals on his loan spells away. And Scunthorpe wouldn't have paid £175k for him.

 

[Shrimpersfan]

No it doesn't. Cutting it at the top level will prove whether he can cut it.

Lol, immense.