Fossetts Farm According to Me

[EastStandBlue]

One of my A level courses this year is Product Design, and i chose to Design and construct an architectural model of The new Stadium. Now, being nearly complete, i need some reviews from people associated with the club, And as Stakeholders (Anybody who is connected with the club someway or another) Fans views are important.

Still left to complete: Roof fittings, Exterior design, Dugouts and player tunnel, Base. The roof fittings are placed down in the pictures, not fixed, and will curve around the roof structure.

Aerial view, showing the East and North stand.

Birdseye view, showing the general shape of the Stadium.

View of the East Stand, the "100" feature on Executive seats are part of the Centenary Celebrations.

Far view of the Stadium, showing the structure itself.

West Stand view. Left hand corner shows the only Built in corner of the stand, including Commentator boxes and Emergency Vehicle entrance

West and South Stand view, Partially visible is the Large screen built into the corner for replays... In the other 2 corners are "Highbury Style" scoreboards.


The capacity of the Stadium is 28,000 All seater, with all 4 stands containing 2 tiers. The ceilings of both Stands are the lowest possible structurely to keep the sound in.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

Nice 1

- like it, maybe this what the stadium would be like in 2009/10 season when Southend players walk out the tunnel alongside ManU players in SUFC first ever Premier$hite game.

 

[rabbloke]

I am sure the 'product design' is well though out but have you taken into consideration the purely business/bums on seats aspect? 28,000 seater may be something to aspire to but will initially be a little sad when it is regularly only selling a half or even a third of its capacity for each match. The design should look at how to create a smaller all-seater stadium that can be increased in size should demand(Premier$hite football) become a reality. Also, a stadium design should include its immediate surrounds i.e. car park. Is the given space large enough for said sized stadium and the necessary car parking for the maximum number of people? Pictures looked cool though.

 

[EastStandBlue]

Quote[/b] (rabbloke @ April 11 2006,11:08)]I am sure the 'product design' is well though out but have you taken into consideration the purely business/bums on seats aspect? 28,000 seater may be something to aspire to but will initially be a little sad when it is regularly only selling a half or even a third of its capacity for each match. The design should look at how to create a smaller all-seater stadium that can be increased in size should demand(Premier$hite football) become a reality. Also, a stadium design should include its immediate surrounds i.e. car park. Is the given space large enough for said sized stadium and the necessary car parking for the maximum number of people? Pictures looked cool though.

Don't think i pointed out that 28,000 is the maximum capacity. The starting capacity would be around the 20,000 mark, with the Corner seating and Top tiers of the North and South stands being added on if need be.
And the Carpark is featured on the Base. There'll be a Transport station with Rail Link, Bus Depot and Underground Car Parking. Underground not only to be space efficient, but it means less work for me

 

[shrimperman]

Quote[/b] (EastStandBlue @ April 11 2006,11:15)]Underground not only to be space efficient, but it means less work for me  

... and greater expense in building costs

 

[shrimper4life]

Like it but would be better if capacity was a little smaller, But like the two tiered structure because if it was 1 tier all the way round, would look boring and the same as all other new ones

 

[shrimperman]

A couple of more serious questions than my previous:

*Corporate and Executive Accomodation?
*You state that the corners would be additionals if capacity need increasing. What would happen to the commentary area?

Apart from that, not a bad effort. Whats your background? Have you ever done any work from AutoCAD, ADT, Revit or 3DMax studio software before?

 

[EastStandBlue]

Quote[/b] (shrimperman @ April 11 2006,15:44)]A couple of more serious questions than my previous:

*Corporate and Executive Accomodation?
*You state that the corners would be additionals if capacity need increasing. What would happen to the commentary area?

Apart from that, not a bad effort. Whats your background? Have you ever done any work from AutoCAD, ADT, Revit or 3DMax studio software before?

You can't see them at all from the Photo's, but there are Executive boxes in every stand. There is also a conference centre which is yet to be added on, as this can't be done until the base is finished.

Only 3 Corners have seating. The model had to be constructed to display the maximum capacity of the stadium, which is why all four stands have 2 tiers and 3 of the corners have lower-tier seating.

A lot of the design work was done using ProDesktop, 3D CAD software, with precison cutting done using 2D Design software and a Microrouter. The Roof curvature and Stadium Struts were cut using the microrouter as every one had to be perfect.

I'll post up some pictures once its fully complete, im hoping to get Ron to come in and critique the models himself for my evaluation.

 

[Reading Shrimper]

That design looks awesome - very blue, very Southend! I'd be very happy if that were the actual design (with 20,000 seats to start with).

Particularly like the '100' and the Nike sponsorship!

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Pretty good.

But 28,000 is a somewhat fanciful capacity at the moment. Not even SUFC are thinking of such a figure if Ron Martin is to be believed in his recent programme notes. I reckon 15,000 - 17,000 would be sufficient.

 

[baldy shrimper]

great design pitch looks a bit bobbly though:D

 

[Shrimp in a Kilt]

Far far worse than that have ended up being built, I like it a lot. The underground parking might initially be more expensive to construct but would end up paying for itself fairly quickly because of the valuable realestate that it frees up.

 

[Southampton Shrimper]

Looks very good, although not sure about the location of the commentary box - putting it in the corner is not going to be the best location for reporters to give a decent commentary! And I'm sure the media organisations would be beating a path to your door, demanding a prime location for their staff.

Whilst on the media theme, have you included a press box for newspaper journalists (who are also used to a central location at just about every ground) and a TV gantry?

 

[EastStandBlue]

Quote[/b] (Southampton Shrimper @ April 12 2006,13:50)]Looks very good, although not sure about the location of the commentary box - putting it in the corner is not going to be the best location for reporters to give a decent commentary! And I'm sure the media organisations would be beating a path to your door, demanding a prime location for their staff.

Whilst on the media theme, have you included a press box for newspaper journalists (who are also used to a central location at just about every ground) and a TV gantry?

Theres a Central Box in the 2 main stands (East and West) larger than ordinary boxes for Matchday Commentators, The Commentator Box in the corner is for Studio Presenting seen at Premier$hite clubs. I remember Matt le tissier poking his headout of a makeshift box this season in the League Cup

Because of the scale i'm using (1:400) TV Gantry's wouldn't be made for the model, but would obviously be included in the actual construction. Press Boxes would be available as they're part of my business plan, and Press can also use the executive seating.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

My Guess for SUFC future stadium plan is like AZ (dutch club) but in blue - its so different to plan old ground like Oxford, darlington & Leicester etc. Its look much nicer as well. Another thing about AZ new stadium plan that they hold 16,000 while our new ground would hold 17'000.

The most realist Stadium plan for SUFC .......

 

[Smiffy]

Love the design, would like to see the seating made as steep as physically possible to give the feeling that we are on top of the players.

 

[shrimper4life]

Quote[/b] (Smiffy @ April 12 2006,18:46)]Love the design, would like to see the seating made as steep as physically possible to give the feeling that we are on top of the players.

And it also makes the stadium look bigger then it actually is

 

[EastStandBlue]

The rake angle of the Bottom tier is 40 degrees, and the top one is 35 degrees...

The maximum rake angle for Stadium tiers by government law is 42 degrees.

 

[Smiffy]

Quote[/b] (EastStandBlue @ April 12 2006,21:32)]The rake angle of the Bottom tier is 40 degrees, and the top one is 35 degrees...

The maximum rake angle for Stadium tiers by government law is 42 degrees.

Bring on the 42 degree rake angle then I say, Uncle Ron....

 

[shrimper4life]

Quote[/b] (EastStandBlue @ April 12 2006,21:32)]The rake angle of the Bottom tier is 40 degrees, and the top one is 35 degrees...

The maximum rake angle for Stadium tiers by government law is 42 degrees.

Whats the government law for the maximum rake angle of the 2nd tier?