For those that sell on eBay

[Crawliano]

Just thought I'd warn you (probably obvious) about some of the things that PayPal do when you have any sort of dispute with a buyer...

I never knew this but PayPal are very much a "buyer is always right" service, be very careful when selling anything, proof of postage is NOT enough if a buyer opens an item not received dispute with you. Should the buyer be a complete **** and claim that they never received the item when they did and they only requested first class postage they automatically will be reimbursed, regardless if they've left feedback etc to the contrary.

Secondly, I've had a recent dispute with a buyer who claimed I sent them fake goods, when I offered to get this matter resolved they became quite stand offish and refused to send the goods back until I had given them a refund. I stood my ground on this one and refused a refund until the item was returned. Next thing I knew, PayPal complaint lodged, lo and behold, they got their money back and I had to pay them if I wanted my goods back!

So, if you're a complete arsehole then I've just shown you how to exploit the system, however, if you're a seller, I'm just warning you that this sort of stuff is getting more and more commonplace on eBay and it's getting very easy to play the system so make sure you protect yourself at all costs.

 

[MK Shrimper]

** goes on Ebay for a free PS3 **

Touch wood, only ever had 1 dodgy transaction out of many on Ebay/Paypal out of over 200 buys & sells.

 

[Crawliano]

Yeah, having 2 in one batch of sales is beyond the joke. It's the fact that the system is so geared up at supporting the buyer. I actually had it out with PayPal and they really don't give a toss.

 

[Davros]

To be fair (or not), ebay of course own paypal, and over the last year ebay, in terms of offering a good selling platform, has really declined in quality, in terms of value to the seller.

They got rid of seller negative feedback for a start, so that if someone doesnt pay you, you cant levae them bad feedback anymore. there reason is that some sellers were giving neg feedback, just because they got neg feedback from thew buyer, out of spite.

Ebay went even further down the we dont give a toss about the seller route when it introduced free postage on DVD's... clearly aiming at stopping people making money on the P&P... which altho honerable... just happened to be on there biggest selling item.

now of course the seller has to include there p&p in the sale price... which of course ebay get a slice of. I expect it will happen on more items soon, as ebay look to make more money from the seller.

 

[Mad Cyril]

You know where they live - why not covertly follow them around town taking photos of them through a powerful telephoto lens and send them a load of black and white A4 prints anonymously.

It might get them wondering who they had upset and what is going to happen next............

 

[Crawliano]

or just send dog **** through the post?

 

[Pubey]

to be fair though i had to open a complaint through PayPal cos I got sold a fake... it was a complete nightmare and unfortunately all too common. Sellers can completely rip buyers off, but now it appears it's happening the other way around as well

probably a good time to post this classic!
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

 

[davewebbsbrain]

to be fair though i had to open a complaint through PayPal cos I got sold a fake... it was a complete nightmare and unfortunately all too common. Sellers can completely rip buyers off, but now it appears it's happening the other way around as well

probably a good time to post this classic!
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

Has been on here before but I am sure some newer Zoners will love it.

 

[Pubey]

Has been on here before but I am sure some newer Zoners will love it.

yeah I meant to say re-post it, it's always a good read!

 

[Crawliano]

to be fair though i had to open a complaint through PayPal cos I got sold a fake... it was a complete nightmare and unfortunately all too common. Sellers can completely rip buyers off, but now it appears it's happening the other way around as well

probably a good time to post this classic!
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

Totally agree with you, I bought a Rolph Laura jumper off eBay. Took forever to get my money back.

 

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

The individual sellers have disappeared over the years, when ever you search for an item you invariably end up with a huge list of products from businesses/on-line shops as a pose to individual Joe bloggs in the street trying to get a few quid for his porn collection.

 

[Pubey]

The individual sellers have disappeared over the years, when ever you search for an item you invariably end up with a huge list of products from businesses/on-line shops as a pose to individual Joe bloggs in the street trying to get a few quid for his porn collection.

depends what you're buying really, if you're buying something 2nd hand then you'll get the indie sellers... if you're buying something new then it's all the e-shops that use ebay as their front end.

 

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

depends what you're buying really, if you're buying something 2nd hand then you'll get the indie sellers... if you're buying something new then it's all the e-shops that use ebay as their front end.

I was recently looking for a second hand generator to replace my current one and struggled to find many second hand ones................loads of new shiny ones though.

 

[Pubey]

I was recently looking for a second hand generator to replace my current one and struggled to find many second hand ones................loads of new shiny ones though.

fair do's, like i said it depends what you're buying

 

[davewebbsbrain]

I was recently looking for a second hand generator to replace my current one and struggled to find many second hand ones................loads of new shiny ones though.

Should your village not be clubbing together for a new generator though?

 

[pickledseal]

I've always thought that.... as both a buyer and seller I've never had any problems. Bought acorfu guidebook the other day which didn't arrive and woman refunded it without having to go throuhg ebay. If paypal refund for missing item, do you have to pay that back as seller or does it come through some insurance?

 

[McNasty]

Positive and negative feedback ? It sounds just like our rep system.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Positive and negative feedback ? It sounds just like our rep system.

Yep, and I have 100% on there! :angel: Had three occasions when I've had to go through a Paypal dispute, first was a DVD which was subtitled although it didn't say so in the listing; second was done on Paypal's instructions due to a **** up by the seller and the third was that fake Ipod some of you may remember from last year. Never had any problem as a seller, maybe I've just been lucky - although to be fair, haven't sold anything on there for a few months so if it's changed then maybe I'm just yet to encounter problems!

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Yep, and I have 100% on there! :angel: Had three occasions when I've had to go through a Paypal dispute, first was a DVD which was subtitled although it didn't say so in the listing; second was done on Paypal's instructions due to a **** up by the seller and the third was that fake Ipod some of you may remember from last year. Never had any problem as a seller, maybe I've just been lucky - although to be fair, haven't sold anything on there for a few months so if it's changed then maybe I'm just yet to encounter problems!

That's because you buy and sell on there and not converse with people ;)

 

[OldBlueLady]

That's because you buy and sell on there and not converse with people ;)

Oh don't you believe it! :D