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A very accurate and fair analysis on the opening post to this thread. Like many others I am not over the moon about Phil Browns appointment but the guy must surely be given a chance to prove his worth. This adulation for Sturrock is becoming irritating to some of us. He started his job here in Division 2 and ended it in ninth place despite being allowed to sign over fifty players. Not exactly brilliant is it? OK, its very difficult working under Martin's regime and Sturrock himself seems a genuine chap. He must feel dissappointed about missing out on managing at Wembley but his reign here was average compared to all the other managers that we have had. Steve Tilson, Dave Webb and Dave Smith were successful managers here, Sturrock was not.

Indeed. I stated on here just a few weeks ago that there would be a glut of managers ready to step into PS's shoes at the drop of a hat, and surprise surprise, 24 hours after Sturrock goes, (ex Premier League Manager) Phil Brown is unveiled. Football is a cruel place and there is a huge pool of managers out of work looking to get back with ANY opportunity. This proved to be the case when Tilson went, now Sturrock, and will be the case once more if and when Brown.

I was a little skeptical of PB's appointment initially, but I like what he's had to say so far and has my full backing.
 
Embargos, horrific player injuries, non payment of wages...No chairman can demand promotion with all this going on. RM picks 5 games we should have won but doesn't mention games we won that we shouldn't have on form. Teams at the bottom are fighting for their lives to stay in the league and will play up. RM has royally cocked it up.

We nearly went up last season under the same circumstances. Yeah we've had some injury problems but it wasn''t like he wasn't allowed to sign anyone.
 
Yep the same 5 bottom side team get murdered at place like Vale, Rotherham etc we had players who can beat that lots but it's our dreadful form and we struggle to get a win agasint these side is the reason why Sturrock was sacked, the match I seen this year at Root Hall in the league was the one I didn't enjoy watching. If that happen at Legia (my another team) the manager would be fired earlier in the season!
 
I think PS did a good job under difficult circumstances.

However, one reason I am not too gutted is that PS has served up the most dire style of football Southend United have played at Roots Hall. Some of it - beyond boring.
without wishing to reopen the debate Kevin if you really think that then you either don't know anything about football or have not been watching Blues very long. Complete and utter tosh.
 
without wishing to reopen the debate Kevin if you really think that then you either don't know anything about football or have not been watching Blues very long. Complete and utter tosh.

Well I tend to agree with him, this season we have been shocking at home last season we weren't much better but were at least winning games.
 
A lot of the fans 'so far up his backside' have recognised a change needed to be made but are thankful for his time at the club overall, where we have had more good days than bad which, considering the situations he has found himself in at times, is an achievement. He has also delivered a cup final and while many agreed it should probably be his last season, feel he should have had a chance to oversee the final he got us to (against the odds).

You should be careful not to just lump the vocal minority who rant and rave after a poor result in with the more reasoned supporters who recognise the job Sturrock has done. It is the latter who have been posting the last few days, I don't think too many people are being two faced.

I agree with the sentiment about Phil Brown though. Good luck to him and obviously I hope he fulfils the minimum requirement which is clearly promotion.

Anyway, look on the bright side. The fact so many of us are divided on Sturrock means his tenure must have been a step up from some of the dross we have watched over the last 20 years where nobody has been in any doubt the manager needed to go.
 
Paul Sturrock was sacked because he failed to deliver this season. We wanted and demanded promotion. He failed to achieve the objective by quite some way. Some of the results have been absolutely shocking. But he got us to the JPT Final, I can hear you saying. So what? He got us to a final of a competition that no one actually cares about - most people are more excited about the day at Wembley rather than the result of the competition. But he kept us alive in his 1st season with only 4 players on the books, I can hear you yell. Ok yes that was good, but that was 2 years ago. You expect to see progression within a club and we have fallen way behind from last year. Sturrock was not sacked for what he has achieved in his previous 2 seasons; he was sacked for the failure of THIS season.

Alot of you have criticised the timing of the sacking but in my opinion, its the perfect time. Martin is hoping that the new manager effect will happen and we can somehow push our way back into contention of the playoffs. It's a brave call and one that I respect him for. If he left it till after the final then the season may already be over by then. It also shows that he values the league higher than the JPT which is good.

I am a Southend United supporter and I support MY club and I suggest a lot of you do too. There's so much praise for Sturrock now and so much negativity towards Phil brown - its absolutely embarrassing. These are probably some of the same people that were ridiculing Sturrock for Southend's performances recently. Southend have been poor for a while now and something had to happen - there were a lot of people that were becoming annoyed with Sturrock. However, now he's been sacked - he's suddenly the messiah. He didnt deliver promotion last year or this year, he's not that bloody amazing. The criticism for Phil Brown is so poor - he's a football manager who got Hull promoted to the Premier League - he doesnt sound too bad. We havent even played a game yet and people are already blaming him!! Who gives you the right to blame him when we havent even played a game yet? You're basing all your logic and arguments around snippets and rumours you've heard from various websites and that's it. Most of you dont have a clue who he is or how he intends to manage Southend. Let the manager manage and then we can review and analyse his performance later.

Some people here are so fickle it's unbelievable. I'm sure if we win both games over Easter then a lot of these 'fans' will start to believe that Brown is now the 'chosen one'. Just for now, calm down, we haven't played any matches yet and yes, although it's hard for you now to believe but Sturrock did fail to achieve his objectives and was rightly sacked. Whether he is a gent is another matter entirely.The league is our priority so (I can't believe it already has to be said) get off Brown's back already and cheer him and Southend on because believe it or not, Brown is not deliberately trying to fail with Southend - he will want them to win just as much as you do and hopefully this can be the start of a new era.

Couldn't have wrote this better myself, spot on!!!
 
The board handed PS a squad of 3 and demanded promotion? A great manager that did his best with a ridiculous set up and unrealistic expectations.

Not in the first season they didn't. He was backed fairly well over the subsequent two season and failed his targets.
 

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