Question DSLR Cameras

[Mad Cyril]

Bringing a camera into Roots Hall and using it is against the ground regulations. Taking pictures of the action during games is against Football League regulations and you face the risk of being ejected and having any images removed.

Incidently all photos taken within football grounds aren't allowed to be used for commercial use, only editorial, unless you have an a very specific agreement with the League.

Can I draw pastel images of in game action similar to those you see from high profile court cases?

 

[TrueBlue]

Can I draw pastel images of in game action similar to those you see from high profile court cases?

All about oil paintings these days mate

 

[Flinty]

how does that affect the you tube section?

 

[TrueBlue]

how does that affect the you tube section?

Well potentially the club could get it removed that's why It would be an idea to back all the videos up

 

[Andyhsufc]

I hardly see how a couple of pictures taken with a mobile phone camera are going to devalue the rights for screening live games and highlights!

 

[McNasty]

I hardly see how a couple of pictures taken with a mobile phone camera are going to devalue the rights for screening live games and highlights!

Exactly, but as soon as you enter the ground, even though you pay for the privilege, the club and the Football League in effect own you.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Ken they do not own you but they own the performing rights that you are witnessing, this has been the same in theatres and cinemas for years.

 

[Andyhsufc]

Ken they do not own you but they own the performing rights that you are witnessing, this has been the same in theatres and cinemas for years.

But isnt it a bit petty saying you cant take a couple of photos!

 

[McNasty]

Ken they do not own you but they own the performing rights that you are witnessing, this has been the same in theatres and cinemas for years.

So they will let you stand, swear, make ****** signs to the opposition fans, smoke, drink and all things associated with being a football fan ? I think not.

 

[TrueBlue]

So they will let you stand, swear, make ****** signs to the opposition fans, smoke, drink and all things associated with being a football fan ? I think not.

Still happens though

 

[Mick]

Bringing a camera into Roots Hall and using it is against the ground regulations. Taking pictures of the action during games is against Football League regulations and you face the risk of being ejected and having any images removed.

Incidently all photos taken within football grounds aren't allowed to be used for commercial use, only editorial, unless you have an a very specific agreement with the League.

In which case why not update the ground regulations to remove the direct contradictions? Attention to detail has never been the club's strong point.

3. No person may bring into the ground or use within the ground any equipment
which is capable of recording or transmitting (by digital or other means) any
audio, visual or audio-visual material or any information or data in relation to any
match, or the ground, eg, laptop computers, mobile telephones.
4. Mobile telephones are permitted within the ground, provided that they are used
for personal and private use only, but must be switched off during the match.

Having rules which are inappropriate, contradictory or unenforced/unenforceable undermines all the other rules.

 

[HenrikLarsson]

I am also quite into photography (shameless plug: this is the link to the Essex category of my daily photoblog) and have encountered all sorts of problems taking my DSLR into sports grounds. Some have confiscated it and returned it at the end of the match (whilst allowing compact cameras into the ground).

I have managed to take shots at a few Roots Hall games although you need to be fairly discreet, which makes things difficult. Best not to take shots right in front of the stewards, and also use a short lens if you have one and concentrate on the action nearest to you.

I can understand the club not wanting people to take photographs for profit etc, but like you I only use my shots for what is essentially just a hobby, and I really don't see what the problem is. A lot of venues class an SLR as a 'professional' camera and so won't allow it in on those grounds, whilst allowing compacts etc

 

[fbm]

I can understand the club not wanting people to take photographs for profit etc, but like you I only use my shots for what is essentially just a hobby, and I really don't see what the problem is. A lot of venues class an SLR as a 'professional' camera and so won't allow it in on those grounds, whilst allowing compacts etc

I think the problem is that it's impossible to differentiate between the professional and the hobbyist when they are both using professional cameras.
Unfortunately for every person who is genuinely "practising" for his hobby, there will be 2 or 3 looking to make a buck.

In any event it doesn't seem to be a massive problem at the ground, does it? I haven't noticed an enormous number of people ejected for taking piccys.

 

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Last season there was a bloke sitting behind me using a video camera. The stewards told him to stop or he would be ejected from the ground.

That also happened to us at Oldham, i was filming on my mobile and the steward said nothing but as soon as my mate took out his video camera he was threatend with be ejected

 

[Crabby Shrimper]

I am also quite into photography (shameless plug: this is the link to the Essex category of my daily photoblog) and have encountered all sorts of problems taking my DSLR into sports grounds. Some have confiscated it and returned it at the end of the match (whilst allowing compact cameras into the ground).

I have managed to take shots at a few Roots Hall games although you need to be fairly discreet, which makes things difficult. Best not to take shots right in front of the stewards, and also use a short lens if you have one and concentrate on the action nearest to you.

I can understand the club not wanting people to take photographs for profit etc, but like you I only use my shots for what is essentially just a hobby, and I really don't see what the problem is. A lot of venues class an SLR as a 'professional' camera and so won't allow it in on those grounds, whilst allowing compacts etc

Out of interest, if you were to take a picture in the ground, and, by chance, happen to get a brilliant shot of an important event, and then be offered money for the use of this shot, would you take it?

 

[adam3811]

I have loads and loads of pictures of inside grounds and stuff..

should I be scared/not do this anymore? :stunned:

 

[HenrikLarsson]

Out of interest, if you were to take a picture in the ground, and, by chance, happen to get a brilliant shot of an important event, and then be offered money for the use of this shot, would you take it?

No picture library would accept it unless you could prove you had permission to take it, same as if you tried to sell a picture of a person without a signed model release form. So I don't think the situation would ever arise.

Maybe it would be different if you happened to witness something like the Bradford fire as it would be a truly newsworthy event, but I wouldn't feel easy taking money for shots of something like that.

 

[borientater]

S l r

thought a slr was a self loading rifle , dont see any problem taking one of these into the ground might come in quite handy ! thought someone brought one to the orient game last year judging by thortons antics