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Drugs

In some ways, everyone wins (apart from the dealer) as the users know the drug is proper and not mixed with other stuff, the government make money and the general public feel safer
 
In some ways, everyone wins (apart from the dealer) as the users know the drug is proper and not mixed with other stuff, the government make money and the general public feel safer

absolutely, as a frequent traveller to Amsterdam I've seen with my own eyes how well the system works.

It'll never work over here though because of the mentality of the British of getting completely ******ed and causing trouble. The "coffee shops" that are so relaxed and friendly in Holland would pale in comparison if they ever opened over here.

And on the topic of softer drugs leading to harder drugs it's all about exposure as well, if you're exposed to a drug and you've already tried some "softer" stuff you're more than likely to want to try it. I've hardly ever been exposed to cocaine, crack, heroin, pills and all that stuff so I have never tried those drugs becasue I haven't had the opportunity (and now I've grown up i don't want to take them anyway) but I have taken in the past what I've been exposed to.
 
In the Netherlands you can get your fix of weed from legal above board places.. No need to buy any more than you want at the time.. Where its illegal its bought off dealers in larger amounts and you are exposed to the very people and enviroments where hard drugs are dealt .. Those likely to take soft drugs are far more likely to get involved in the harder stuff in that enviroment..

Spot on mate.

As it goes I've done quite alot of different drugs but hardly do anything now, and what messed up the most? Cannabis! :unsure:
 
Spot on mate.

As it goes I've done quite alot of different drugs but hardly do anything now, and what messed up the most? Cannabis! :unsure:


It's not as if Drug Dealers have a conscience is it? If they can see more profit then they'll introduce you to harder stuff because it is more seriously addictive so they know you're hooked.
 
I tend to subscribe to the principle of least harm on these kind of things - look where prohibition has got us, or not as the case may be.

There'll always be people determined enough to get themselves hooked whatever barriers you put in the way. For some, illegality even lends the habitual use of hard drugs a kind of glamour a million miles removed from its consequences. It's not even as though it's necessary to break the law as it stands to get high, be it on solvents, salvia or whatever.

Take the drug dealers out of the chain, reduce the need for users to resort to criminality, plaster packaging with the most graphic warnings you can of what people are letting themselves in for and let people make their own informed choices. Stupid people are always going to do stupid things, no matter how hard you make it for them.
 
Take the drug dealers out of the chain, reduce the need for users to resort to criminality, plaster packaging with the most graphic warnings you can of what people are letting themselves in for and let people make their own informed choices. Stupid people are always going to do stupid things, no matter how hard you make it for them.

sums it up perfectly for me.
 
In my experience drug dealers never tried to get me to buy crack or heroin. I bought dope off of work colleagues, I bought bloody fantastic E's and acid off of the woman that lived in the flat below and speed from my ex's flatmate.

I've never EVER been stupid to get involved in drugs that are addictive - oh apart from nicotene of course, but the Government can tax that of course.
 
It did to my brother in law and plenty of people in his circle. Exactly that way.

Fair enough, he got mixed up with the wrong crowd then obviously. I've never had anyone try and force drugs onto me.

The first time I ever took Speed I ended up round this blokes place who i'd never met before, he served up all kinds of stuff and a couple of hours after I got there he started cooking up and injected himself with coke I couldn't believe what I was watching and was thinking "**** me I better get out of here" but nothing happened To be honest I think peer pressure is more to blame than "dealers".
 
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The tragedy of our drugs policy is that it is dictated by tabloid irrationality, and not by evidence.

Sums it up really and I agree with every point made in that article.
 
Totally agree with this , at the end of the day each person is responisble for their own actions . If they wish to pursue what ever activity they wish they must know the outcomes.
 
I thought this was going to be a thread like one of those mathematics questions you got asked at school:

If a kilo of cocaine leaves Columbia with a value of £325 (and sells in Britain at £51,000 per kilo), with the police seizing an estimated 12% of imported drugs en route, how many kilos would they have to seize if they were to hit their target of 70%?

Answers on a Rizla.
 

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