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Derren Brown

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Sounds plausable, he made a big thing about the room, who was there and the cameras... Suggesting that all was not quite as he made out. Personally it'd be slightly disappointing if it was 'just' camera/computer trickery
 
A bit of an anticlimax for me if I'm honest. By not revealing the numbers before the lottery it leaves it open to far too many theories and ways he could have faked it, If he showed the balls before Then I would nhave been impressed.
 
The two camera split thing is almost impossible to pull off, as he walked from the television to the balls at the end pretty seamlessly... Because of the change of perspective, there'd be some kind of inteference.

Also, because the "explanation show" is an hour long, it's probably something mor elong winded than "Oh, they were interchangeable balls, you see" or "I filmed it with two cameras". My guess is it's some kind of mathematical equation of some kind. Or He's from the future. I'm going with Future Man.
 
He also said that one he shows us Friday, then 'you can have a go too'.

I dont know many peopel with a TV studio, 2 cameras and a post-production suite?! (perhaps I live in a rough area).
 
DERREN BROWN - SECRET REVEALED!!!!!

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I Derren Brown is psychic then I trust he knows he should never darken the door of my local....
 
JoshC said:
A bit of an anticlimax for me if I'm honest. By not revealing the numbers before the lottery it leaves it open to far too many theories and ways he could have faked it, If he showed the balls before Then I would nhave been impressed.
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Spot on Josh, if you know a bit about magic, there are a few ways to get any numbers you want, anywhere you want after you are told the numbers.

But nothing you do will enable you to get the lottery numbers before the balls are drawn, apart from tampering with the actual draw equipment.

So just another magic trick, and NO, he doesn't possess paranormal powers.
 
THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK said:
Spot on Josh, if you know a bit about magic, there are a few ways to get any numbers you want, anywhere you want after you are told the numbers.

But nothing you do will enable you to get the lottery numbers before the balls are drawn, apart from tampering with the actual draw equipment.

So just another magic trick, and NO, he doesn't possess paranormal powers.
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Tis all misdirection and trickery there really is nothing beyound nature however there are some rules that can be twisted or bent .
Derren Brown does annoy me as he declares becuse he can do the esoteric tricks as stage magic it immediately means there's no other way to do it or anyother method is fraudulant .
 
osymandus said:
Tis all misdirection and trickery there really is nothing beyound nature however there are some rules that can be twisted or bent .
Derren Brown does annoy me as he declares becuse he can do the esoteric tricks as stage magic it immediately means there's no other way to do it or anyother method is fraudulant .
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has anyone claimed the Randi prize yet?
 
Napster said:
has anyone claimed the Randi prize yet?
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No Randi and Csicop have changed the criteria any time anyone gets close , he got very worried about that Russian girl who could diagnose people by looking at them.

In a self-published commentary regarding the New York testing performed by CSICOP and CSMMH, Brian Josephson, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and the director of University of Cambridge's Mind-Matter Unification project, criticized the test and evaluation methods used by Hyman and questioned the researchers' motives, leveling the accusation that the experiment had the appearance of being "some kind of plot to discredit the teenage claimed psychic."
Stating that the results should have been deemed "inconclusive", Josephson argued the odds of Demkina achieving four matches out of seven by chance alone were 1 in 50, or less than 2% - making her success rate a statistically significant result. He also argued that Hyman used a Bayes factor that was statistically unjustifiable because it greatly increased the risk of the experiment falsely recording a moderate correlation as being no correlation.[7][8]
Hyman responded that the high benchmark used in the testing was necessary due to the higher levels of statistical significance required when testing paranormal claims (extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary proof),[6][9] and that a high Bayes factor was necessary to compensate for the fact that "Demkina was not blindly guessing", but instead "had a great number of normal sensory clues that could have helped increase her number of correct matches".[10]
Bayes factors are used to compensate for variables that cannot be calculated through conventional statistics;[11][12] in this case, the variable created by the visual clues that Demkina might gather from observing a patient.[9] The Bayes factors used by Hyman were calculated by professors Persi Diaconis and Susan Holmes of the Department of Statistics at Stanford University.[9][13]

Oddly i dont believe his every contacted groups like The Order of the Golden Dawn , Mason's, OTO or the IOT for demonstartions of extra phenomoena activity , though looking at it again he wants deomnstrations of supernatura abilities and as none of teh groups above believe in that well hey ho.

Turns out his withdrawing it next year as well.
 
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