David Lee

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I'm sure MtS would be delighted...

David Lee's contract with Brighton is up in 2 months and he is being released.  He is quoted in the Echo tonight as saying he would love to come back to Blues as he really enjoyed himself here and is still pals with Maher and Dudfield and got them to have a word with Tilly.  Tilly was half interested but there was nothing left in the budget but he would love to come back in the future.

IMHO here is another "maybe" player.  I certainly saw him do some very good things down here and he scored 10 goals in his only season but I also saw him put in some very average performances too.  He didn't cut the mustard at Hull and hasn't at Brighton either.  In fact, in the Brighton reserves report last night linked in another thread on here, the writer states "Lee was just Lee", a comment which induced laughter emoticons from other posters.

His current worth is probably summed up by adding that there are currently 2 clubs interested in him - Hornchurch and Stevenage.

Sorry David - I think we can do much better.

 

[Mad Cyril]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ Aug. 19 2004,13:50)]I'm sure MtS would be delighted...

David Lee's contract with Brighton is up in 2 months and he is being released.  He is quoted in the Echo tonight as saying he would love to come back to Blues as he really enjoyed himself here and is still pals with Maher and Dudfield and got them to have a word with Tilly.  Tilly was half interested but there was nothing left in the budget but he would love to come back in the future.

IMHO here is another "maybe" player.  I certainly saw him do some very good things down here and he scored 10 goals in his only season but I also saw him put in some very average performances too.  He didn't cut the mustard at Hull and hasn't at Brighton either.  In fact, in the Brighton reserves report last night linked in another thread on here, the writer states "Lee was just Lee", a comment which induced laughter emoticons from other posters.

His current worth is probably summed up by adding that there are currently 2 clubs interested in him - Hornchurch and Stevenage.

Sorry David - I think we can do much better.

I thought he looked like a young Martin Fry from ABC.

 

[Andy_S]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

 

[Benfleetshrimp]

Old news..boring

 

[Jai]

I thought Lee was good while here, but he has been allowed to stagnate in reserve team football for too long, plus the fact that this division has moved on in terms of quality.

Plus, what was that he said about us when he left? I don't take kindly to being called a Premiersheep fan.

 

[rabbloke]

David Lee in my book is a journeyman. He had the commitment of Mark Rawle, Messrs Cort and Constantine et al. If they can head for greener grass once they can do it again. I would rather have a bunch of useless players that are commited to The Blues than a team of self-interested aces.

 

[Benfleetshrimp]

what did he say about us?

 

[Jai]

Not sure exactly what it was, but something along the lines of "They're all Spurs and west ham fans anyway"

 

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Quote[/b] ]I would rather have a bunch of useless players that are commited to The Blues

You just had to say it, didn't you!

 

[Benfleetshrimp]

Quote[/b] (rabbloke @ Aug. 19 2004,14:03)]David Lee in my book is a journeyman. He had the commitment of Mark Rawle, Messrs Cort and Constantine et al.

I think you should be crossing Cort off that list. Explain how he hasnt shown commitment? Along your line of thinking Royce, Collymore, Powell the lot of them, no commitment to SUFC.

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ Aug. 19 2004,13:50)]I'm sure MtS would be delighted...

David Lee's contract with Brighton is up in 2 months and he is being released.  He is quoted in the Echo tonight as saying he would love to come back to Blues as he really enjoyed himself here and is still pals with Maher and Dudfield and got them to have a word with Tilly.  Tilly was half interested but there was nothing left in the budget but he would love to come back in the future.

All I want to know is: what have we got to lose? Lee's return would - must - be contingent on one clear understanding: we would pay him next to bugger all, and that he would be being offered a six-month contract to prove himself.

If he were being paid (say) £300 a week plus bonuses, wouldn't that be worth a gamble?

Of course, if he turned us down in favour of the 'Urchins on the grounds that they were offering more money, then that would tell me all I would need to know; whereupon my branch of DaLAS would be disbanded.

I just think that maybe, just maybe, Lee has got something to prove. I think that there was a great deal of talent in there, but that a youthful ego resulted in him making bad choices and saying ill-advised comments. Wouldn't be the first time a Spurs youth-product came to Roots Hall and failed to endear himself to the fans in his first season here, would it... do the words "Kevin Maher" ring any bells?

I'm a little taken aback at the lack of forgiveness on this site. I prefer to remember that, in his season here (2000-01), Lee finished joint top-scorer, despite playing in midfield or out of position on the right; he showed that, potentially, he could be a very talented player; and that maybe he now has something to prove, given that his career has gone anywhere but forwards since he has left the club.

I just think that he could be worth a gamble... it's not as if we're producing miracles from midfield right now, are we? I wish that the club would give him a second chance... if he seizes it, then that could be something very special for both him and us.

If not, what have we lost...?

Hey ho,

Matt

 

[Benfleetshrimp]

Quote[/b] (Jai @ Aug. 19 2004,14:07)]Not sure exactly what it was, but something along the lines of "They're all Spurs and west ham fans anyway"

well in that case he can f**k off with Rawle and Boere

 

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Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 19 2004,14:38)]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ Aug. 19 2004,13:50)]I'm sure MtS would be delighted...

David Lee's contract with Brighton is up in 2 months and he is being released.  He is quoted in the Echo tonight as saying he would love to come back to Blues as he really enjoyed himself here and is still pals with Maher and Dudfield and got them to have a word with Tilly.  Tilly was half interested but there was nothing left in the budget but he would love to come back in the future.

 

All I want to know is: what have we got to lose?  Lee's return would - must - be contingent on one clear understanding: we would pay him next to bugger all, and that he would be being offered a six-month contract to prove himself.

If he were being paid (say) £300 a week plus bonuses, wouldn't that be worth a gamble?

Of course, if he turned us down in favour of the 'Urchins on the grounds that they were offering more money, then that would tell me all I would need to know; whereupon my branch of DaLAS would be disbanded.

I just think that maybe, just maybe, Lee has got something to prove.  I think that there was a great deal of talent in there, but that a youthful ego resulted in him making bad choices and saying ill-advised comments.  Wouldn't be the first time a Spurs youth-product came to Roots Hall and failed to endear himself to the fans in his first season here, would it... do the words "Kevin Maher" ring any bells?

I'm a little taken aback at the lack of forgiveness on this site.  I prefer to remember that, in his season here (2000-01), Lee finished joint top-scorer, despite playing in midfield or out of position on the right; he showed that, potentially, he could be a very talented player; and that maybe he now has something to prove, given that his career has gone anywhere but forwards since he has left the club.

I just think that he could be worth a gamble... it's not as if we're producing miracles from midfield right now, are we?  I wish that the club would give him a second chance... if he seizes it, then that could be something very special for both him and us.

If not, what have we lost...?

Hey ho,

Matt

In fairness Matt you could probably say the same about many players that have left Roots Hall and gone on to pretty much nothing. Belgrave, Stuart, Jenkins, Clark, McSweeney... all of them did some decent stuff at the Hall (ok, some more than others!) and had undoubted potential which for one reason or another never showed itself on a consistent enough level to warrant a new contract. All of the above went down to a lower level of football.

David Lee however failed to convince Webby that he was worth a place in the squad so went to Hull. He failed to set the world alight there so went to Brighton. Now he has failed there as well. He must have something because he was at Spurs first, and it's a rare chance for players to get that many chances when for most of their careers they have basically not delivered the goods.

I feel that there are far better gambles we could take with our limited budget. And, having been with Hll and Brighton, I'm not sure that David Lee would value himself as low as £300 per week. Also, bearing in mind the wagecap, it may not be an option at even £100 per week!

 

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To qualify... probably a bit unfair to say Jenkins, Clark and McSweeney have gone onto nothing, because they only left last season and it's therefore too early to say of course. But I'm sure you get the point.

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ Aug. 19 2004,14:58)]Belgrave, Stuart, Jenkins, Clark, McSweeney... all of them did some decent stuff at the Hall and had undoubted potential which for one reason or another never showed itself on a consistent enough level

I disagree... of that list, only Jenks showed the potential we've talked about - and I was sad to see him go.

I know I'm banging on about it, but in that season Lee finished top scorer. This is not a man who showed brief glimpses of form; this was a man who knocked in 10 goals from midfield, despite often playing out of position.

As I've said elsewhere, every promotion side needs someone who scores regularly from midfield. We've got all of the eggs, in relation to that task, in the rather fragile basket that is Jay Smith.

For that reason, and that reason alone, I think Lee would be worth a gamble... however, I do think he has a lot to prove in the desire stakes - hence the very low wage offer.

If he didn't accept it, then fair enough - that would, in my mind, be the end of it.

As for the £300 a week... with Uncle Ron swanning around in a fuggin' Bentley, I find it hard to believe that we can't dig £7,500 out from somewhere, representing the 6-month (well, 25-week) contract I would theoretically offer...

Matt

 

[Guest]

David Lee's greasy blond curtains and fluffy tash-beard combo was total chav. Do we need more people like this in Southend?

 

[Mad Cyril]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 19 2004,14:38)]Of course, if he turned us down in favour of the 'Urchins on the grounds that they were offering more money, then that would tell me all I would need to know; whereupon my branch of DaLAS would be disbanded.

How do you disband a one man band?

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (Mad Cyril @ Aug. 19 2004,15:14)]

Quote[/b] (Matt the Shrimp @ Aug. 19 2004,14:38)]whereupon my branch of DaLAS would be disbanded.

How do you disband a one man band?

There are two members of the MtS branch of the DaLAS, I'll have you know...

 

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Quote[/b] ]I'm a little taken aback at the lack of forgiveness on this site.

Foregiveness isn't a commodity that SZoners are renowned for Matt. Will you be forgiving Boere? His message amounted to pretty much the same as Lee's only not in as many words. Don't forget, players are rarely fans - it's their job, and unless they are amongst the odd few that have cult status heaped upon them (like Billy Best, Alan Moody, Chris Powell, Stan Collymore) then they probably all do think we are an unreasonable bunch.

And actually a great many Blues fans DO follow Prem teams like West Ham and Spurs, much as though it hurts to admit it. I'll bet that the number of Blues fans that ONLY support Souhend is a lot less than 1000.
Like it or not, we live in the shadow of the big boys, and because of or geographical location, will NEVER be a "big" club.

Nonetheless, it's OUR club, and we want OUR players to at least make it look as if it's as important to them as it is to us.

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ Aug. 19 2004,16:29)]Foregiveness isn't a commodity that SZoners are renowned for Matt.  Will you be forgiving Boere?  His message amounted to pretty much the same as Lee's only not in as many words.

That is scandalous. Boere calling us "sad w@nkers" after we sent a delegate to his fuggin' hospital bed on the other side of the bloody world is nothing fcuking like a 19 year-old saying that he wasn't too sad to leave the club because he didn't get on with the fans.

I may be out of line, but you've stooped rather low - and been wildly inaccurate and unfair in the process - just to try to make a point!

Matt