shrimper4life
Manager
I was thinking seeing he'll have 1 year left at the start of the upcoming season, he could leave the following season on a free i think?[b said:
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Contract news
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Colchester Shrimper
Coach
Great news that jay being offered something for next year. Anyone know which game it is next year he will be fit to play in??
OlvisIII
Coach
Petts will never set the world alight but will never let the team down. In the back of my mind I remember reading an article where the players claimed he was technicallly one of the best players in the club. He is an excellent squad player and on the last couple of seasons would be a better signing in terms of game contribution than Smith.
P.S I'm not saying he is a better player than Smith - it is just that Jay has been out or unfit all of the time whereas Petts seems to slip in and out without looking completely out of depth.
P.S I'm not saying he is a better player than Smith - it is just that Jay has been out or unfit all of the time whereas Petts seems to slip in and out without looking completely out of depth.
Bucks_blue
Manager
I think 'fitter' may have seen this for what it is.... Agent Talk.
Whist I would be happy for both Petts and Smith to stay I think the club are savvy enough to realise they are only squad palyers and will have offered them 'squad wages'.
So whilst it is good news that loyalty is being rewarded it is up to the players agents to decide if that wage is enough.
I reckon the club have offered league 1 wages and are banking on the players loyalty and devotion to Team Spirit to keep them here for next season.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to see both of them sign for League 1 teams later in the summer......
Whist I would be happy for both Petts and Smith to stay I think the club are savvy enough to realise they are only squad palyers and will have offered them 'squad wages'.
So whilst it is good news that loyalty is being rewarded it is up to the players agents to decide if that wage is enough.
I reckon the club have offered league 1 wages and are banking on the players loyalty and devotion to Team Spirit to keep them here for next season.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to see both of them sign for League 1 teams later in the summer......
Smudger
Manager
Jay had 5 weeks out through injury last year, that was all. His bigger problem was not getting into the team. I think he'll be really fired up for a good season after all the frustration and I'd like to see him get the chance to show the kind of quality he did a couple of years ago.
sufcintheprem
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Having thought about this a bit more, I think I'd be happy to keep any of the current squad on the same contracts they have been on, retirements excluded. Every player we have will give 100% on the pitch whenever called upon. I think this is in contrast to last year where I felt a few of the players lacked application.
People like Gray and Pettefer might be of high value next year. They might not be the most talented in the team but if we're trying to protect a lead, these two players are probably the hardest working in the squad. Gray never seems to get the credit for this but when I've seen him, he'll chase down anything and can also do a defensive job on the wing.
People like Gray and Pettefer might be of high value next year. They might not be the most talented in the team but if we're trying to protect a lead, these two players are probably the hardest working in the squad. Gray never seems to get the credit for this but when I've seen him, he'll chase down anything and can also do a defensive job on the wing.
SUFCFARAWAY
Guest
He can talk to clubs in january for a free move in the summer.[b said:
sufcintheprem
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but...[b said:
Won't he still be under the age where players can move for nothing? If he is, a tribunal would have to decide the fee and with him being top scorer last season and presumably handy enough to interest clubs next season, we'd still get a reasonable fee even if they often err on the lower side of market price at these tribunals.
By my reckoning he'll be 23 still and I think the cut off age is 24. Be warned, that means I'll be allowed to leave on a free next summer.
Shrimp in a Kilt
Guest
Wishful thinking, I fear. Having helped the club into the Championship, and then seen the queue for Season Tickets snaking around the carpark, every player will expect (and deserve) a share in the success that they have helped to bring to the club. To offer a player the same terms again would be tantamount to saying "Thanks and goodbye".[b said:
Upminster Blue
Manager
Yes, he would be subject to a tribunal fee although this is likely to be less than we'd get for him in the open market if he was still under contract for a few years.[b said:Quote[/b] (sufcintheprem @ May 17 2006,13:16)]but...[b said:
Won't he still be under the age where players can move for nothing? If he is, a tribunal would have to decide the fee and with him being top scorer last season and presumably handy enough to interest clubs next season, we'd still get a reasonable fee even if they often err on the lower side of market price at these tribunals.
By my reckoning he'll be 23 still and I think the cut off age is 24. Be warned, that means I'll be allowed to leave on a free next summer.
Personally I'd offer him a 3 year contract extension with a decent pay rise (he can't be one of our higher eaners at the moment, and quite frankly, he deserves to be) with plenty of bonuses if we stay in the Championship and if he does the buisness on the pitch.
As an incentive to sign, I'd also include a clause in his contract which says that we have to accept any offers over, say, £2m for him. That way he has an extra incentive to do well, is not tied to the club if we get relegated and, crucially, we also protect our investment in him. Everyone's a winner!
canveyshrimper
R.I.P
I am not too sure about that. My understanding of the rule of players 23 or under moving is if they have been developed by the selling club. Which I take to mean as coming through the ranks as a YTS and youth team.
Seeing that Freddy started at West Ham, was released had time out, went to Grays, where we picked him up and paid a transfer fee for him. He does not qualify as being developed by this club, other than enhancing his career and reputation.
Therefore IMO, next summer he can move for nothing.
Seeing that Freddy started at West Ham, was released had time out, went to Grays, where we picked him up and paid a transfer fee for him. He does not qualify as being developed by this club, other than enhancing his career and reputation.
Therefore IMO, next summer he can move for nothing.
Guest
Guest
My opinion was at 3k a week he is one of, if not our highest earners(s)?!
A £2m release fee would be ridiculous. If he has a good season in the championship his value will sky rocket above that, maybe not far but certainly above it.
The best move IMO would be a relegation clause of say £1.5m-£2m so that if we get relegated he can leave for a realistic sum. Otherwise maybe a clause if a Prem club comes in for him with a suitable offer we have to consider it.
A £2m release fee would be ridiculous. If he has a good season in the championship his value will sky rocket above that, maybe not far but certainly above it.
The best move IMO would be a relegation clause of say £1.5m-£2m so that if we get relegated he can leave for a realistic sum. Otherwise maybe a clause if a Prem club comes in for him with a suitable offer we have to consider it.
Upminster Blue
Manager
Where did you hear that? He was signed as an unknown youngster from non-league and so surely must be on relatively low money.[b said:
Also, it's said that even our highest earners (eg Maher, Prior and Barrett) are on less than £2k a week. I can't therefore see Freddy being on £3k a week. £3k a month perhaps, but not a week.
Upminster Blue
Manager
How many Championship players have been sold for more than £2m in recent years? Also £2m would be the minimum - a bidding war could well ensue.[b said:
And remember that even if £2m is a bit below market value it's a dam sight better than a free transfer or nominal fee which is all that we're likely to get for him if he doesn't sign a new contract.
Upminster Blue
Manager
If we're relegated there's a fair chance Freddy will have had a poor season or been injured. How many teams get relegated with a 20+ goals striker? Not many, if any! If that's the case I can't see anyone paying over a £1m for him.[b said:
Freddy holds all the cards here - he's young, in demand and out of contract in a year. We need to be creative (ie offer him what he wants within reason) and proactive (ie put a deal on the table now) if we want to keep him longer term.
sufcintheprem
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Well, if football managers know their football manager, and I reckon they're all dab hands at it, then they will all bid the minimum for him because there is nothing to be gained from bidding any more. The bidding war will then come down to personal terms which the clubs will plough money in to if they are really keen to sign him.[b said:
That's what I'd do anyhow.
lincoln shrimper
Guest
I was informed that the club have the option of an extra year meaning he is effectively contracted to the club until 2008!
Upminster Blue
Manager
Eh?[b said:Quote[/b] (Andy_S @ May 17 2006,19:23)]I was right with my point that I get ignored on the other thread
Our highest earner, methinks you all could work out who, is on more than £2k a week as I've mentioned before. Mainly as I was so surprised when I found out!
Goater I assume?
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