David Essex
Coach
Havent got the time to type out all my thoughts but i thought it all a little bit suspicious when the home team decided to change ends at the start of the game...hmmmm they obviously knew something....
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Post-Match Thread and Ratings Col Ewe vs SUFC 08/02/10
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BoyWonder2
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Right, I wasn't there last night, but this are my thoughts based on the Sky coverage.
I actually thought we was the better team last night, as do some of my work friends this morning chatting about the game. We had plenty of the ball, tried to play football on a really awful pitch, and had the chances but unfortunately couldn't put them away. They didn't look like scoring in my eyes, apart from Gillespie's chance at the end, they didn't really work many good shooting opportunities, yet we did.
They are effective at what they do. They weren't as long ball as I expected when they started with Platt and Odejayi, and I thought our centre halves dealt with them quite well considering the size of them against the size of us.
I won't go on two much about the pitch, but our game on Sunday got called off and the pitch was in a much better state than Col Ewes'. For a professional football Club, thats disgraceful. Obviously its the same for both sides, but they have the advantage of playing on it before hand.
The first goal is embarrasing. Plain and simple. I think Barrett has tried to get underneath the ball to stop him kicking it into Mildenhall for an own goal, but completely misses the ball and kicks the pitch. Now, had it been the other side and on his left foot I doubt that would have happened, but we will never know. 2nd goal, the pitch again played its part. They overhit a corner and Odejayi, to his credit, kept it alive heading it back across goal. Now, on a proper pitch, when it hit the ground it would have bounced into JFC rather than roll through his legs and their guy is left with a tap in. Maybe Mildenhall could have come for the corner, but like I say, it was overhit and 9/10 everyone would have gave it up and gone out for a goal kick.
Absolutely nothing wrong with Barrett's goal. Decent delivery from Francis and Barrett just beats Platt to the ball and heads home. Not sure what it was disallowed for, but there you go.
I thought there was positives from the game. We looked to play the ball around, Mildenhall made a couple of excellent blocks, M'Voto got more game time, Scannell was superb, Spencer looked bright, Laurent was his usual bag of tricks and Paterson looked lively when he came on.
Mildenhall - Usual story for him at the moment. Played well, caught well, couldn't do an awful lot about the goals. Great block in the first half and good save in the 2nd from Gillespie.
Francis - Did OK. Delivery let him down from open play, but put in a cracking corner for Barrett's disallowed goal.
M'Voto - Isn't fit, but had to play. His slip in the build up to the first goal has almost gone unnoticed, but is getting there. 90 minutes will have definately helped him. Can't wait for the old M'Voto back.
Barrett - Terrible for the first goal obviously, but responded to that. Usual captains performance from him, and should of had a goal to show for it.
Malone - Really struggling to see what he actually adds to the side unfortunately. His set-piece delivery is dire, it truly is. Yes Herd isn't the best defensively, and unfortunately his height appears to be holding him back (Although he has a cracking leap) but I'd rather have our own left back out there making mistakes and improving, rather than Wolves youngster making mistakes and improving.
Scannell - Very good performance from him. Nice and direct and appeared to grow in confidence and carried on from where he left off against Swindon.
JFC - I don't like playing holding midfielders. I think both him and Grant drop incredibly deep and act as a 3rd centre half rather than a 2nd central midfielder. It leaves big gaps in the middle of the park and allows teams to play around us. Wasn't at his best last night.
Moussa - Improving. He has been horribly out of form recently but looked to get on the ball and be positive last night. Great strike in the 2nd half as well.
Watt - Wasn't really involved. Scannell was playing very well, so we kept looking right when we had the ball. Looked lively though, and has a bit of pace about him which will prove useful.
Spencer - Don't think he should be starting if I'm honest. Blazed over from 6 yards, luckly the whistle had gone. Plenty of work up top, but I think he is best coming on in the 2nd half and using that energy against tiring defenders.
Laurent - Big fan. Wasn't his night all in all, but never shys away from having the ball and made their centre half look very ordinary at times.
Subs:
Paterson - I like him. Should have scored when he came on, but looked lively and was an encoraging performance from him.
I've mentioned in another thread the big thing last night for me was the players, and in particular, Scannell, Francis, Laurent and Moussa never shied away from anything last night. They could of hid after the first goal and the bad run we are on, but they demanded the ball, travelled with it and looked to make things happen. Scannell was very direct and got at their left back, who is being chased by Championship sides, and made him look ordinary.
We now have the Col Ewe boys available, Macca is back from suspension and M'Voto has got 90 minutes under his belt. Tilson, at long last, has competition for places across the pitch.
I actually thought we was the better team last night, as do some of my work friends this morning chatting about the game. We had plenty of the ball, tried to play football on a really awful pitch, and had the chances but unfortunately couldn't put them away. They didn't look like scoring in my eyes, apart from Gillespie's chance at the end, they didn't really work many good shooting opportunities, yet we did.
They are effective at what they do. They weren't as long ball as I expected when they started with Platt and Odejayi, and I thought our centre halves dealt with them quite well considering the size of them against the size of us.
I won't go on two much about the pitch, but our game on Sunday got called off and the pitch was in a much better state than Col Ewes'. For a professional football Club, thats disgraceful. Obviously its the same for both sides, but they have the advantage of playing on it before hand.
The first goal is embarrasing. Plain and simple. I think Barrett has tried to get underneath the ball to stop him kicking it into Mildenhall for an own goal, but completely misses the ball and kicks the pitch. Now, had it been the other side and on his left foot I doubt that would have happened, but we will never know. 2nd goal, the pitch again played its part. They overhit a corner and Odejayi, to his credit, kept it alive heading it back across goal. Now, on a proper pitch, when it hit the ground it would have bounced into JFC rather than roll through his legs and their guy is left with a tap in. Maybe Mildenhall could have come for the corner, but like I say, it was overhit and 9/10 everyone would have gave it up and gone out for a goal kick.
Absolutely nothing wrong with Barrett's goal. Decent delivery from Francis and Barrett just beats Platt to the ball and heads home. Not sure what it was disallowed for, but there you go.
I thought there was positives from the game. We looked to play the ball around, Mildenhall made a couple of excellent blocks, M'Voto got more game time, Scannell was superb, Spencer looked bright, Laurent was his usual bag of tricks and Paterson looked lively when he came on.
Mildenhall - Usual story for him at the moment. Played well, caught well, couldn't do an awful lot about the goals. Great block in the first half and good save in the 2nd from Gillespie.
Francis - Did OK. Delivery let him down from open play, but put in a cracking corner for Barrett's disallowed goal.
M'Voto - Isn't fit, but had to play. His slip in the build up to the first goal has almost gone unnoticed, but is getting there. 90 minutes will have definately helped him. Can't wait for the old M'Voto back.
Barrett - Terrible for the first goal obviously, but responded to that. Usual captains performance from him, and should of had a goal to show for it.
Malone - Really struggling to see what he actually adds to the side unfortunately. His set-piece delivery is dire, it truly is. Yes Herd isn't the best defensively, and unfortunately his height appears to be holding him back (Although he has a cracking leap) but I'd rather have our own left back out there making mistakes and improving, rather than Wolves youngster making mistakes and improving.
Scannell - Very good performance from him. Nice and direct and appeared to grow in confidence and carried on from where he left off against Swindon.
JFC - I don't like playing holding midfielders. I think both him and Grant drop incredibly deep and act as a 3rd centre half rather than a 2nd central midfielder. It leaves big gaps in the middle of the park and allows teams to play around us. Wasn't at his best last night.
Moussa - Improving. He has been horribly out of form recently but looked to get on the ball and be positive last night. Great strike in the 2nd half as well.
Watt - Wasn't really involved. Scannell was playing very well, so we kept looking right when we had the ball. Looked lively though, and has a bit of pace about him which will prove useful.
Spencer - Don't think he should be starting if I'm honest. Blazed over from 6 yards, luckly the whistle had gone. Plenty of work up top, but I think he is best coming on in the 2nd half and using that energy against tiring defenders.
Laurent - Big fan. Wasn't his night all in all, but never shys away from having the ball and made their centre half look very ordinary at times.
Subs:
Paterson - I like him. Should have scored when he came on, but looked lively and was an encoraging performance from him.
I've mentioned in another thread the big thing last night for me was the players, and in particular, Scannell, Francis, Laurent and Moussa never shied away from anything last night. They could of hid after the first goal and the bad run we are on, but they demanded the ball, travelled with it and looked to make things happen. Scannell was very direct and got at their left back, who is being chased by Championship sides, and made him look ordinary.
We now have the Col Ewe boys available, Macca is back from suspension and M'Voto has got 90 minutes under his belt. Tilson, at long last, has competition for places across the pitch.
Thought the ref was very much a homer, how did the thuggish Tierney not get sent off for some of his behaviour towards Scannell? I was told Adam's goal was disallowed for "climbing" on Platt, not seen it in detail yet, certainly looked fair to us in the ground.
Boreham Shrimper
President
That was the only possible explanation. TV guys thought it was a perfectly good goal, as did all of us on the match thread last night.
bishmania
First XI
Now I've moved down south west and was working yesterday I was sadly confined to watching it on the TV (like most the Col Ewe fans it seems based on the no. of empty seats - terrible for a high-flying team in an Essex derby). Didn't see any other Shrimpers so think I may be the only one in Weymouth - tell me if you know otherwise!!!!
I thought we played really well and that was our downfall. We have some real good passers of the ball but just lacked a cutting edge, but we just kept getting the ball stuck under our feet on the horrendous pitch (I know they're farmers up North Essex but there must be somewhere else to graze their cows and plant their vegetables).
Colewe played it correcty - stuck the ball in the box and let the pitch do the rest. We just couldn't get the ball in the right areas.
As for ratings -
Mildy - 6 - Dunno if he wasn't confident with his footing for the first but should have done better to save Barrett digging a crater in the goalmouth.
Francis - 6 - Pretty anonymous but their winger didn't seem to get at him that much. Gillespie caused him a couple of problems late on.
Malone - 5 - General play was good but set pieces were woeful. Why oh why did we persist with him when we could have used Franno instead.
M'Voto - 6 - Still looks short of fitness but battled well against their man mountain strikeforce.
Barrett - 6 - I know a couple of people are blaming him for the goal, but what can you do when you lose your footing like that. Not his finest moment by any means but I feel it's more a serious case of bad luck.
Scannell - 8 - Where did this performance come from? More please. Great direct running, couple of decent balls in. Our man of the match.
Watt - 7 - He said in the Evho he'd rather be with Southend than playing reserve team footie at the Emirates. I bet he feels differently today!!!!! Saying that, had a couple of really good runs in the second half and should be an asset.
Moussa - 6 - Tidy but unspectacular. Needs to find a cutting edge to help us break teams down. Just lacks that killer pass for me.
Christophe - 6 - Chugged round, put himself about and not his worst performance for us by any stretch of the imagination. Perhaps should have done better with second goal when it rolled through his legs but the pitch played a big part in that again to be fair.
Laurent - 7 - Naturally gifted but has the blinkers on and needs to be willing to take advice on board about making the correct decisions.
Spencer - 6 - I like the look of this boy. Think he could be our new favourite striker.
SUB
Patterson - 6 - Looked okay. Needs the ball to feet and if he'd scored that chance in the second half maybe it could have inspired him to go on and get a few for us over the next few weeks.
I thought we played really well and that was our downfall. We have some real good passers of the ball but just lacked a cutting edge, but we just kept getting the ball stuck under our feet on the horrendous pitch (I know they're farmers up North Essex but there must be somewhere else to graze their cows and plant their vegetables).
Colewe played it correcty - stuck the ball in the box and let the pitch do the rest. We just couldn't get the ball in the right areas.
As for ratings -
Mildy - 6 - Dunno if he wasn't confident with his footing for the first but should have done better to save Barrett digging a crater in the goalmouth.
Francis - 6 - Pretty anonymous but their winger didn't seem to get at him that much. Gillespie caused him a couple of problems late on.
Malone - 5 - General play was good but set pieces were woeful. Why oh why did we persist with him when we could have used Franno instead.
M'Voto - 6 - Still looks short of fitness but battled well against their man mountain strikeforce.
Barrett - 6 - I know a couple of people are blaming him for the goal, but what can you do when you lose your footing like that. Not his finest moment by any means but I feel it's more a serious case of bad luck.
Scannell - 8 - Where did this performance come from? More please. Great direct running, couple of decent balls in. Our man of the match.
Watt - 7 - He said in the Evho he'd rather be with Southend than playing reserve team footie at the Emirates. I bet he feels differently today!!!!! Saying that, had a couple of really good runs in the second half and should be an asset.
Moussa - 6 - Tidy but unspectacular. Needs to find a cutting edge to help us break teams down. Just lacks that killer pass for me.
Christophe - 6 - Chugged round, put himself about and not his worst performance for us by any stretch of the imagination. Perhaps should have done better with second goal when it rolled through his legs but the pitch played a big part in that again to be fair.
Laurent - 7 - Naturally gifted but has the blinkers on and needs to be willing to take advice on board about making the correct decisions.
Spencer - 6 - I like the look of this boy. Think he could be our new favourite striker.
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Patterson - 6 - Looked okay. Needs the ball to feet and if he'd scored that chance in the second half maybe it could have inspired him to go on and get a few for us over the next few weeks.
bishmania
First XI
Seany T, Malone gets his rating from me because his set pieces were consistently awful. Other than that he was pretty solid.
Watt was very quiet but showed a couple of nice moments in the second half and looked as if he might create something. More to come from this boy I think.
Don't think Jeff was bad (not good either though) and Colewe didn't have many efforts on goal other than the ones they scored, hence an alright rating for M'Voto - who again wasn't bad, but wasn't good.
Watt was very quiet but showed a couple of nice moments in the second half and looked as if he might create something. More to come from this boy I think.
Don't think Jeff was bad (not good either though) and Colewe didn't have many efforts on goal other than the ones they scored, hence an alright rating for M'Voto - who again wasn't bad, but wasn't good.
seany t
President
That's fair enough, it's just odd that down the pub we all spent the evening wondering where Watts was (try saying that 3 times backwards).
Not a personal slur on you my friend, just a general observation.
Boreham Shrimper
President
Agreed and being an Arsenal player, it really is no surprise that he struggled to adapt to the conditions ;)
Andy_S
Member of the Barry Corr Fan Club
In fairness we gave Watt sod all of the ball, so he was always going to struggle to get that noticed without it. That was the worst possible game to throw him into. If the Tranmere game goes ahead then I'd wager that a fair few will be purring over him come Saturday evening.
Regarding M'Voto, after a shoddy opening 20 or so minutes I thought he settled down and did alright. Certainly looked less of a ticking time bomb than Barrett anyway. He was immense at the start of the season and he will be again very shortly of that I'm sure.
Regarding M'Voto, after a shoddy opening 20 or so minutes I thought he settled down and did alright. Certainly looked less of a ticking time bomb than Barrett anyway. He was immense at the start of the season and he will be again very shortly of that I'm sure.
TBV_Dan
Supporting The Blue Voice
Tis true, I am just trying to get the vid off my phone now! Quality take down!
Kris
Available in weeks, not months
I know I'll probably get shouted down but I actually thought disallowing Barrett's header was the correct decision. Let's face it, many on here (and I usually agree with them) moan about him "hugging" and climbing on opposition forwards, leading to free-kicks against him. For me, that's precisely what he did in order to score last night. It would have been a free-kick anywhere else on the pitch as far as I'm concerned.
Overall, yesterday evening was immensely annoying as that's the best we've played for a while, which is baffling considering the state of the pitch. Scannell was astonishingly good; by far his best ever 90 minutes. I can only hope that it's down to Tilly telling him to up his game if he wants a new contract, rather than him merely putting on a show for the cameras. We desperately lacked end product, though, and Laurent was infuriating. I'd drop him for Saturday.
Still, at least it was a much improved performance and a similar showing on Saturday should be enough for a win. I'm also looking forward to seeing Watt on a decent pitch.
Overall, yesterday evening was immensely annoying as that's the best we've played for a while, which is baffling considering the state of the pitch. Scannell was astonishingly good; by far his best ever 90 minutes. I can only hope that it's down to Tilly telling him to up his game if he wants a new contract, rather than him merely putting on a show for the cameras. We desperately lacked end product, though, and Laurent was infuriating. I'd drop him for Saturday.
Still, at least it was a much improved performance and a similar showing on Saturday should be enough for a win. I'm also looking forward to seeing Watt on a decent pitch.
TBV_Dan
Supporting The Blue Voice
It has been uploaded Sammy, as per request, link is on this thread....
http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/showthread.php?p=1104604#post1104604
adsmithers
Schoolboy
1 for everyone but malone, mvoto and christophe who should all get a -10
Igmalian
Guest
Hi, Arsenal fan here!
I was going to ask what your first thoughts were on Sanchez-Watt but after reading this thread I get the impression that most of you were expecting a little bit too much from him!!
You have to bear in mind that he's only 18 and this was his first ever league game, also he's used to playing on football pitches and not the local beach!
I watched the game and I thought he did ok, he certainly gave you a couple of glimpses of what he's capable of just give him a chance! :)
I was going to ask what your first thoughts were on Sanchez-Watt but after reading this thread I get the impression that most of you were expecting a little bit too much from him!!
You have to bear in mind that he's only 18 and this was his first ever league game, also he's used to playing on football pitches and not the local beach!
I watched the game and I thought he did ok, he certainly gave you a couple of glimpses of what he's capable of just give him a chance! :)
canveyshrimper
R.I.P
Welcome to the board mate, and yes I agree that quagmire on Monday must have been a bit of a culture shock to him. However he seemed comfortable when he got the ball, and he should notice the difference when he plays at Roots Hall on Saturday as it will be a pitch with grass on it which should be more suitable for him.
Firestorm
Pedant
I only saw it on TV, but the only players which had had me audibly despairing were Laurent for his decisions once he had the ball in a decent poition and Malone, for the lack of Quality in his delivery, I also questioned why he, as a left footer, was taking the deeper attacking Free kicks on the right which, by the angle were only ever going to go to the keeper (if they reached that far)
The two wingers performed well , although SW saw a lot less of the ball than Scannell, the Arse fan above said he felt we were expecting too much of him, I though Col u had the same expectations as they seemed to put men on him early with the thought that an 18 year old on a ploughed field could be "muscled" out of the game.
Personally , as soon as I heard about the pitch I felt we were going to get nothing out of the game. Its hard enough being a ball playing side short of confidence, add a local derby against a long ball playing physical side with no qualms about "putting themselves about" and a pitch which doesn't allow the ball to run and i had not thoughts of a win
The two wingers performed well , although SW saw a lot less of the ball than Scannell, the Arse fan above said he felt we were expecting too much of him, I though Col u had the same expectations as they seemed to put men on him early with the thought that an 18 year old on a ploughed field could be "muscled" out of the game.
Personally , as soon as I heard about the pitch I felt we were going to get nothing out of the game. Its hard enough being a ball playing side short of confidence, add a local derby against a long ball playing physical side with no qualms about "putting themselves about" and a pitch which doesn't allow the ball to run and i had not thoughts of a win
I said I thought he did ok, would like to see him used as a sub in our next game to come in and cause problems. That way he can see us at *ahem* full strength before working out where he can cause havoc!
TBV_Dan
Supporting The Blue Voice
Was present at the game on Monday, thought he played ok considering it was his first league performance for Southend. The pitch/swamp/beach (or whatever it is Col Ewe play on) didn't suit his style of play, will be interested in how he plays against Tranmere on Saturday.
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