Cauley Woodrow

[LennySUFC]

He's got the ability, just not physical enough for this league!

 

[mgh]

How a player performs can be very dependent on the surrounding players; i'm sure Coker and Lennie could do a job in the Prem, whereas, say, Ashley Young or Bendtner would struggle with the tempo and workrate in L2...

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

How a player performs can be very dependent on the surrounding players; i'm sure Coker and Lennie could do a job in the Prem, whereas, say, Ashley Young or Bendtner would struggle with the tempo and workrate in L2...

:hilarious:Hilarious.What job would that be exactly? Groundsmen?

 

[RHB]

:hilarious:Hilarious.What job would that be exactly? Groundsmen?

Too harsh by far. Maybe you have got to watch them regularly before offering that opinion??

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Too harsh by far. Maybe you have got to watch them regularly before offering that opinion??

I'm all for believing in your own club's players.But there are limits.

 

[RHB]

I'm all for believing in your own club's players.But there are limits.

True, and maybe Coker may be a bit ambitious, but Lenny? I think he might just do it on present progress. I genuinely don't understand why you would be so disparaging when you seemingly haven't seen them enough to form an opinion.

 

[dannypav]

True, and maybe Coker may be a bit ambitious, but Lenny? I think he might just do it on present progress. I genuinely don't understand why you would be so disparaging when you seemingly haven't seen them enough to form an opinion.

To be fair , I don't think he was running his own players down , but just trying to make the point that there is a huge gap between L2 and the Prem.
Not saying Leonard cannot make it one day , but for now I fear he would be lost.

 

[Jam_Man]

He has a point though,massive difference between League Two and Premiership

 

[RHB]

To be fair , I don't think he was running his own players down , but just trying to make the point that there is a huge gap between L2 and the Prem.
Not saying Leonard cannot make it one day , but for now I fear he would be lost.

Probably true, but that was not the point I was making.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

:hilarious:Hilarious.What job would that be exactly? Groundsmen?

He's entirely right that they could do a job, and as usual you're completely wrong.

I'm not saying that they are future premier$hite players - there are better alternatives available who could offer more - but the gap between lower premier$hite squad player and league two starter isn't that great. Think of not just Woodrow but inferior players like Sankofa, Lloyd Sam, Robert Milsom, Ben Reeves etc who have made all premier$hite appearances.

Whilst Leonard and Coker wouldn't shine in the Premier$hite, and would likely be amongst the weaker players more often than not, they wouldn't be completely disgraced. We saw how they fared against Premier$hite Hull where they acquitted themselves well. In the top flight they would be limited and far less influential than in the 4th division but could fit in in case of injuries and do the type of job Woodrow is doing.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

True, and maybe Coker may be a bit ambitious, but Lenny? I think he might just do it on present progress. I genuinely don't understand why you would be so disparaging when you seemingly haven't seen them enough to form an opinion.

To be fair , I don't think he was running his own players down , but just trying to make the point that there is a huge gap between L2 and the Prem.
Not saying Leonard cannot make it one day , but for now I fear he would be lost.

He has a point though,massive difference between League Two and Premiership

Danny and Jam Man get it.

I think I've seen Lenny enough over the last few seasons to form a realistic assessment of his abilities.Granted he's made a big improvement this seaon after his move to C.M.

Frankly though, I'd be pleasantly suprised to seem him make the L2 side of the season.He's certainly got no chance of being a Prem. regular.

As for Coker, I saw him make that awful mistake at home to Scunthorpe (not that I hold it against him) and also play wonderfully (as did the rest of the team) against Millwall.I would have thought that L1 would be the limit of his potential.

In reality, we're a mid-table L2 side and not world beaters.Time for a reality check for some of our supporters, methinks.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Whilst Leonard and Coker wouldn't shine in the Premier$hite, and would likely be amongst the weaker players more often than not, they wouldn't be completely disgraced. We saw how they fared against Premier$hite Hull where they acquitted themselves well. In the top flight they would be limited and far less influential than in the 4th division but could fit in in case of injuries and do the type of job Woodrow is doing.

You seem to be forgetting that Fulham paid half a million quid for Woodrow's services as a teenager from non-league Luton.

I'm sure our Chairman would bite the hands off anyone foolish enough to offer even a six figure fee for Leonard,let alone Coker.

How many of Hull's regular Prem.team actually played against us?

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

You seem to be forgetting that Fulham paid half a million quid for Woodrow's services as a teenager from non-league Luton.

I'm sure our Chairman would bite the hands off anyone foolish enough to offer even a six figure fee for Leonard,let alone Coker.

How many of Hull's regular Prem.team actually played against us?

You seem to be forgetting that Everton paid half a million quid for Scott Spencer's services as a teenager.

When a Premier$hite team buys a teenager they are paying for the player they may be in 5 years' time not the player they currently are. Woodrow has a higher ceiling than the older Leonard and Coker but they have higher floors and are for the moment (or at least were a couple of months ago) the better players.

It's immaterial how many of Hull's regulars were in that line-up. The fact is they were all members of a Premier$hite squad.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

You seem to be forgetting that Everton paid half a million quid for Scott Spencer's services as a teenager.

When a Premier$hite team buys a teenager they are paying for the player they may be in 5 years' time not the player they currently are. Woodrow has a higher ceiling than the older Leonard and Coker but they have higher floors and are for the moment (or at least were a couple of months ago) the better players.

It's immaterial how many of Hull's regulars were in that line-up. The fact is they were all members of a Premier$hite squad.

I'm quite happy to bet with you that Cauley Woodrow will make more appearences at a higher level that either Leonard or Coker.

Unfortunately,it's not immaterial at all that Hull only fielded a minimum of first team regulars against us.That's precisely why the FA Cup has been downgraded and precisely why I didn't bother to come over for the game.

 

[Jam_Man]

You seem to be forgetting that Everton paid half a million quid for Scott Spencer's services as a teenager.

When a Premier$hite team buys a teenager they are paying for the player they may be in 5 years' time not the player they currently are. Woodrow has a higher ceiling than the older Leonard and Coker but they have higher floors and are for the moment (or at least were a couple of months ago) the better players.

It's immaterial how many of Hull's regulars were in that line-up. The fact is they were all members of a Premier$hite squad.

How did those players fare against Bury?

Its one thing a team raising its performance for a one off cup game but they arent exactly shining in league two at the moment.

Woodrow may have a higher ceiling and ours may have higher floors but all you need is a sturdy ladder and , er and I seem to have forgotten my point.

 

[WESTY_SUFC]

Woodrow has made a couple of appearances being thrown in by a new manager. It doesn't make him Premiership level.

Im also gobsmacked that anyone is considering any of our players could be premiership level.

We should know after we had a full team of players head and shoulders above anything we have now when we won league 1 and the majority of them weren't good enough for the Championship let alone Premiership.

 

[mgh]

let's personalise it - do you think you could do the job your boss does?
yes - most of us do
how about the bosses' boss?
actually, maybe...

ditto footballers - i'd suggest most pros have the same skill sets, it's the confidence, experience and coaching

 

[mrsblue]

let's personalise it - do you think you could do the job your boss does?
yes - most of us do
how about the bosses' boss?
actually, maybe...

ditto footballers - i'd suggest most pros have the same skill sets, it's the confidence, experience and coaching

Liam Brady explained this theory when he coached us a few times...Speed of thought is the difference!

 

[undercovershrimper]

Liam Brady explained this theory when he coached us a few times...Speed of thought is the difference!

Not just speed of thought, but making the right decisions as well

 

[mrsblue]

Not just speed of thought, but making the right decisions as well

Speed of thought,

LB said along the lines of,Before you receive the ball try and have a picture of play so when you get the ball you have made your decision already..Been trying this theory for years and still failing:smile: