Question Bobby Moore's time at Southend.

[dannypav]

**Waits Patiently** :unsure:

I will have to PM you as it's really shocking and not sure everyone will be able to take the news....................

 

[dannypav]

Bobby Moore was very much a pub person, and definitely liked a drink. He was often seen drinking with his great mate Jimmy Greaves, who went on to be an alcoholic, (beaten that now and doesn't touch a drop.) Football was different in those days, as it seemed O.K to smoke and drink vast amounts of beer, and still be ready for the next game. Many players would even have a ciggy at half time, unthinkable nowadays.
Try Roy McDonough's book, if you want an idea of the drinking culture.

Fully agree with everything you've written.
I think the 'training' regimes of many top players in the 60's-70's were on a par , which is why they could get away with it.
Just surprised that some seemed shocked that Bobby was part of this culture.
I can't recall the exact time or the incident in detail , but seem to recall that whilst playing for West Ham , Bobby , Greavsie and a few others went out before a 3rd round F.A.Cup match and promptly got well beaten by a lower league team - Blackpool ?
Think the players were fined and dropped ?
I remember it was a big story at the time.

 

[C C Csiders]

Fully agree with everything you've written.
I think the 'training' regimes of many top players in the 60's-70's were on a par , which is why they could get away with it.
Just surprised that some seemed shocked that Bobby was part of this culture.
I can't recall the exact time or the incident in detail , but seem to recall that whilst playing for West Ham , Bobby , Greavsie and a few others went out before a 3rd round F.A.Cup match and promptly got well beaten by a lower league team - Blackpool ?
Think the players were fined and dropped ?
I remember it was a big story at the time.

IIRC it was only Clyde Best who was dropped as he was expendable - and it was Blackpool, though they were (old) First Division at the time.

 

[Kevin Hogg]

As it happens. I was taken by my father (a failed attempt to educate me to a Hammers way of thinking) to the WHU home game immediately after the Blackpool incident. Bobby Moore was sub (only one in those days) and he came on during the game. WHU were beaten 1-4 by Derby County.

Back to a proper football club. Mooro wanted so much to succeed at Roots Hall but times were difficult behind the scenes.

 

[dannypav]

As it happens. I was taken by my father (a failed attempt to educate me to a Hammers way of thinking) to the WHU home game immediately after the Blackpool incident. Bobby Moore was sub (only one in those days) and he came on during the game. WHU were beaten 1-4 by Derby County.

Back to a proper football club. Mooro wanted so much to succeed at Roots Hall but times were difficult behind the scenes.

Can change name to Sturrock also....................................

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I worked at the club with Bobby Moore as Manager.
I got the impression of a great footballer that had some frustration with managing a struggling 4th Division side while his friend and rival - Franz Beckenbauer - was managing his country. Neither had much previous managerial experience. Franz worked with Jurgen while Bobby worked with Wazza (Warren May).
Can you imagine Stevie G sitting in a dugout at Halifax Town in the pouring rain??

He was a decent man.

Absolutely I can see him on the bench for the Shaymen, as he certainly wouldn't get into my starting line-up.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Red Card Roy writes about Bobby Moore; and gives a positive view on the man and his work ethics: as Roy was here (at The Hall) and gives his own impressions, it would appear that back then the task of managing most sides (without money) was as hard if not harder than it is now.
Roy did like a drink (or 20 pints) and Bobby could sup as well as the next...........for those who care about such things.

 

[Rob1920]

He was probably too nice to be a succesful manager at any level. He was obviously up against it here but others in similar positions have thrived. Being a top player doesn't make you a top manager. Top bloke though.

 

[Slippery]

I used to meet Bobby Moore in the mornings when he walked his dog in Blenheim Park. I think he lived nearby. We used to have perfectly normal chats and he rarely spoke about football, so I made a point of not bringing the subject up. He was probably sick and tired of talking about it.
I understand from one of the players at the time, that Bobby Moore talked tactics which might have brought down the Argentine national side, but meant very little when Bury were hoofing the ball over your head. He wasn't cut out for lower division management, but probably would have done very well in the Premiership.
Co-incidentally, I played an amateur Sunday match against a team he was playing in. I was playing up front and BM (who was probably 40+ by then), just ran rings around everyone. I hardly touched the ball all afternoon.

 

[londonblue]

I used to meet Bobby Moore in the mornings when he walked his dog in Blenheim Park. I think he lived nearby. We used to have perfectly normal chats and he rarely spoke about football, so I made a point of not bringing the subject up. He was probably sick and tired of talking about it.
I understand from one of the players at the time, that Bobby Moore talked tactics which might have brought down the Argentine national side, but meant very little when Bury were hoofing the ball over your head. He wasn't cut out for lower division management, but probably would have done very well in the Premiership.
Co-incidentally, I played an amateur Sunday match against a team he was playing in. I was playing up front and BM (who was probably 40+ by then), just ran rings around everyone. I hardly touched the ball all afternoon.

He lived 2 doors down from a friend of mine. He used to let his dogs **** on their front garden. My friend's mum had a go at him to which he replied, "Don't you know who I am?"

 

[Bluegoose]

I had lunch with him in the blues lounge as I guess it is now. Seats in the directors box for the game, my mate Terry got ****ed up and went down 2 rows when we scored, head first.

 

[GodblessArthurRowley]

Pretty dire time except for one of my favourite football memories. Friday night game against Rochdale arrived with a mate fifteen minutes before kick off. The floodlights were off and I asked the car park steward if the game was on, he seemed a bit put out and said 'Of course'.
Purchased a ticket at the turnstile(you could do that in those days) Ticket had row A on it but didn't fancy sitting there so moved a few rows back and sat down. Just before kick off a guy comes up to me and says 'You're sitting in my seat'. I looked at him then looked around at a wasteland of empty seats, he wasn't a season ticket holder just had a ticket for the game like me. I just laughed at him and moved to a different seat, attendance that night 1400. Happy days!

 

[Strykr]

Was around my first ever games, I was very young but my dad got us into the backrooms or prob the shrimpers bar now I think about it, and he signed a programme for me. I didnt even know who he was tbh. Looking back its pretty cool that I got to meet him briefly