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[Badger74]

There are alot of fans blaming the players which i can agree with, but what the hell do us fans do at 3.00pm we sit in our seat and shut up for 90 mins and moan a few times.
i know that the players should be up for it straight off so why the f%&k do us fans stay so quite when we should be focused into getting behind the team from the word go.
When we score the ground does rock but why does it has to be that case!
Today was the worst atmosphere i have heard at the hall for a very long time.
At Burnley all the fans got behind the team straight away and i think that encoraged the players.
So to cap this off we are in this togther and i think 25% lies with us so for f%&k sake next game sing up and if know one joins in just think to yourself your doing your bit

 

[Bielzibubz]

The five minutes before half time the whole of the west and south upper were in full cry. The last 15 - 20 minutes the atmosphere lifted. Why do you think that is? Because the players showed some passion for the game - some commitment - some skill, albeit way to late, and that brought the crowd to life.

Can you honestly expect the crowd to sing its heart out when we are being taught how to do things by mediocre opposition?

 

[Bielzibubz]

Quote[/b] (wardy @ Oct. 21 2006,20:01)]Today was the worst atmosphere i have heard at the hall for a very long time.

Crap commitment and endeavour from the players = crap atmosphere.

End of.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

You cannot expect the crowd to get behind the players if they cannot be ar&ed to play for Southend, if the player show bit more passion from the kick off, the crowds will be right behind them all the way.

 

[Southend Elvis]

Not another one blaming the crowd. Our players aren't kid's, if their not doing the business they reap what they sow. Granted maybe we shouldn't be too negative, but do you blame us, how many goals have we conceded. Let me think Chelsea are at the top of the league because of the crowd.... no, it's because they have the best players.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

The way we played today and in last 5 week, it remind me of SUFC side of 1996/97 season, it was horrible to watch an passionless side that give up easily

 

[Tilly hates yellow boots]

Quote[/b] (wardy @ Oct. 21 2006,20:01)]There are alot of fans blaming the players which i can agree with, but what the hell do us fans do at 3.00pm we sit in our seat and shut up for 90 mins and moan a few times.
i know that the players should be up for it straight off so why the f%&k do us fans stay so quite when we should be focused into getting behind the team from the word go.
When we score the ground does rock but why does it has to be that case!
Today was the worst atmosphere i have heard at the hall for a very long time.
At Burnley all the fans got behind the team straight away and i think that encoraged the players.
So to cap this off we are in this togther and i think 25% lies with us so for f%&k sake next game sing up and if know one joins in just think to yourself your doing your bit

I've made a simalar post last week and got ridicalled for it.
I really understand what your saying, i wish the whole satdium could sing in harmony, and start a chant that lasts longer then 10-15 seconds !!!!!
We do indeed only sing when were winning and it very frustrating because we sing very loud when we want to, but why can't we want to do it mroe often.
It's a two way thing,
Players play with passion = Everyone sings
Everyone sings = Players play with more passion
just wish we could do the latter more often.

 

[bertiebigbanana]

Quote[/b] (jcrcr @ Oct. 21 2006,20:13)]

Quote[/b] (wardy @ Oct. 21 2006,20:01)]There are alot of fans blaming the players which i can agree with, but what the hell do us fans do at 3.00pm we sit in our seat and shut up for 90 mins and moan a few times.
i know that the players should be up for it straight off so why the f%&k do us fans stay so quite when we should be focused into getting behind the team from the word go.
When we score the ground does rock but why does it has to be that case!
Today was the worst atmosphere i have heard at the hall for a very long time.
At Burnley all the fans got behind the team straight away and i think that encoraged the players.
So to cap this off we are in this togther and i think 25% lies with us so for f%&k sake next game sing up and if know one joins in just think to yourself your doing your bit

I've made a simalar post last week and got ridicalled for it.
I really understand what your saying, i wish the whole satdium could sing in harmony, and start a chant that lasts longer then 10-15 seconds !!!!!
We do indeed only sing when were winning and it very frustrating because we sing very loud when we want to, but why can't we want to do it mroe often.
It's a two way thing,
Players play with passion = Everyone sings
Everyone sings = Players play with more passion
just wish we could do the latter more often.

just wish they could do the former more often!

 

[elmo putney]

i totally agree wardy,the atmosphere was dreadful today, whether were on top of our game or not,fighting for promotion or survival we should get behind the boys....it's all well and good every1 shouting and cheering when were 3 - 0 up but to me it's when were losing that the players need our support more........i'm as ****ed off as the next man when we lose but were playing against some good teams nowadays, it seems to me that a lot of our supporters expected us to go up for the 3rd year on the trot, we have to accept that in this division we are punching above our weight and survival has always been the target for this season,and with a little bit more support from us the fans we could just achieve that.

 

[tomasufc 4eva]

Quote[/b] (Southend Elvis @ Oct. 21 2006,20:10)]Not another one blaming the crowd. Our players aren't kid's, if their not doing the business they reap what they sow. Granted maybe we shouldn't be too negative, but do you blame us, how many goals have we conceded. Let me think Chelsea are at the top of the league because of the crowd.... no, it's because they have the best players.

I presume you are referring to me as the "other one blaming the crowd", but I'm going to refer you back to my post again (you seem to have been unable to read it in its entirety thus far so I don't know why I should expect any different this time) and ask you whether I talked about a lack of amosphere being the cause of our defeat.

The answer is no. What I was upset about was the fact some 'supporters' of the club decided to boo Billy before he came onto the pitch, not the fact that there was a lack of atmosphere.

If you didn't boo Billy then this is not aimed at you, so please don't come back with pedantic and poorly argued points.

Jesus, Joseph and Mary, this is becoming quite tiresome.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

Ipswich was not a good team, they look poor & waiting to get beat, but instead our players told Ipswich players "We are crap, come and beat us please!"

 

[Sandbach Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Murkey_Mouse @ Oct. 21 2006,20:27)]Ipswich was not a good team, they look poor & waiting to get beat, but instead our players told Ipswich players "We are crap, come and beat us please!"

Yet again I have to take issue with this "so and so were rubbish".
Billy Clarke, Legwinski and Noble were a class above most of our players. Half their team has played in the premier league though so what was to be expected.

 

[sufcintheprem]

Atmosphere was ok where I was to start with but conceding another simple goal knocked that on the head.

If you try and generate an artificial atmosphere when you are haplessly throwing away more points, you should expet few people to join in. The way we've played in some recent games, I don't think any crowd could have altered the result.

 

[Crabby Shrimper]

I think part the problem is that there are two types of supporter.

1) The fan. This person watches the football for entertainment. They'll follow a particular club, may even be extremely knowledgeable about them. they'll possibly even be the "every game home and away, season ticket holding" type. However, they primarily see the club as entertainment, and if the team fail to entertain, they feel hard done by, and take it out on whoever will listen.

2) The supporter. This person watches the football becaue they feel they're part of it. They don't so much follow a particular club, more feel that the club is a part of their life. They'll go to as many games as they can, not just the glamour games, though some through location/funds etc may not be able to achieve this. Sometimes the team fails to perform. This will hurt them more than anger them, and whilst they'll do all they can to lift the team durin the match, after they will often be the most vehement in their displeasure (though will still defend the team against outsiders) Basically they support the club whenever and wherever possible.

Now, these, in my opinion are stereotyped extremes, and i'd say that the majority of the crowd will fall somewhere in between these two. However, it stands to reason that the latter will be the ones who followed the club through its darkest hours, whilst the former willl be more prevalent amongst those who are late converts to the club.

My point? we have to expect that, as we get more and more successful, we'll have to tolerate more fans who moan if we dont score 9 past Chelsea, away, with a reserve team playing, on a wet Tuesday evening.

All we can do, is to stick together as fans, and do our bit to pull OUR club back onto the straight n narrow. It shouldnt be about "who's responsible for lifting whom" we should remember that whithin Southend United Football Club the words of John Donne "ring" true, "send not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee" Lets stop all this bickering and fighting, Unite as one, and show those lucky enough to be representingus on the pitch just what the initials SUFC mean!


Cry God for Brushy, Southend and St Tilly!

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (jcrcr @ Oct. 21 2006,21:13)]I've made a simalar post last week and got ridicalled for it.

Everyone sings = Players play with more passion

No, you were NOT "ridicalled" (sp)! You suggested that people at the ground who didn't sing were not supporting the team and several of us pointed out that, believe it or not, there are some fans who prefer NOT to sing or chant; they don't like it, they feel uncomfortable with it. That wasn't ridicule; behave!

Your argument that if everyone sings, the players will perform with more passion holds very little water; in fact it's leaking all over the place and destroying the nice shag-pile carpet here in the SZ community house. If that theory WERE true then why haven't Newcastle United won anything in over 30 years (aside from the Intertoto)? I mean the noise generated inside St James' Park is awesome, no? And don't even get me started on those arseholes who pretend to play for England ...

 

[Groyne Strain]

Quote[/b] (Xàbia Shrimper @ Oct. 22 2006,07:19)]Your argument that if everyone sings, the players will perform with more passion holds very little water; in fact it's leaking all over the place and destroying the nice shag-pile carpet here in the SZ community house. If that theory WERE true then why haven't Newcastle United won anything in over 30 years (aside from the Intertoto)? I mean the noise generated inside St James' Park is awesome, no?

No, it isn't. They are the most over-rated set of supporters in Britain. The booing of the team when behind at half or full time is never mentioned, neither is the silence some supporters complain about on their own messageboards - skunkers in particular.

They're just like everyone else - the team gives them something and they will back them, and it's only on rare occasions they create the atmosphere everyone talks about. Which is pretty much what life was like in the North Bank, that is seen and remembered by many with rose-tinted spectacles.

Atmosphere at the Hall has never been particularly great, when things aren't going our way, or is simply mundane. It has improved from the 90's though, which was downright poisonous when it was going against us.

 

[Xàbia Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Groyne Strain @ Oct. 22 2006,08:41)]No, it isn't.  They are the most over-rated set of supporters in Britain.  

OK. But the England analogy is correct, no?!

 

[Groyne Strain]

Damn right, XS!

 

[Southend Elvis]

Quote[/b] (Xàbia Shrimper @ Oct. 22 2006,07:19)]

Quote[/b] (jcrcr @ Oct. 21 2006,21:13)]I've made a simalar post last week and got ridicalled for it.

Everyone sings = Players play with more passion

No, you were NOT "ridicalled" (sp)! You suggested that people at the ground who didn't sing were not supporting the team and several of us pointed out that, believe it or not, there are some fans who prefer NOT to sing or chant; they don't like it, they feel uncomfortable with it. That wasn't ridicule; behave!

Your argument that if everyone sings, the players will perform with more passion holds very little water; in fact it's leaking all over the place and destroying the nice shag-pile carpet here in the SZ community house. If that theory WERE true then why haven't Newcastle United won anything in over 30 years (aside from the Intertoto)? I mean the noise generated inside St James' Park is awesome, no? And don't even get me started on those arseholes who pretend to play for England ...

Mike, you tapped into my thoughts with that one, I was drinking a spanish cava last night, was that the link?
I can't stick people who try to blame everyone else bar the actual cause of it.
The players aren't playing well, the management is doing some strange things, ie not changing things quick enough ( we still had to wait about 10mins after we went 3-0 down for a sub to come on) this lack of loan signings what with all our injuries, our player still out on loan, playing people out of position.
Hopefully this is a blip but there's alot of blips at the moment.. fingers crossed it changes.

 

[OneDreweBroughton]

Quote[/b] (D62SUBOY @ Oct. 21 2006,20:09)]

Quote[/b] (wardy @ Oct. 21 2006,20:01)]Today was the worst atmosphere i have heard at the hall for a very long time.

Crap commitment and endeavour from the players = crap atmosphere.

End of.

Agree 100%.

The players were crap in the warm-up and so I resolved not to cheer them during the game.

How can the players expect us, a sell out crowd, to be up for the game if they can't turn on the style in the pre-match warm-up?

The players set the tone during the warm up and sorry, that was unacceptable.