Are you on a big salary but just don't know it?

[Rusty Shackleford]

And in recent times have elctions been true reflections of the peoples will?

Not people like you osy, just the lumpen proletariat. And what do you suggest would be better - give power to the loser of the election? As long as he has a nickname that starts with 'Red'?

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

And in recent times have elctions been true reflections of the peoples will ;)

At least BoJo was elected via a form of "majority" representation (the Alternative Vote system) - he had to get more than 50% of the 1st and 2nd choice votes in order to be elected.

We've not had a British Prime Minister winning a majority of the national vote since Ramsay Macdonald's National Coalition in 1931. Cameron certainly won't get a majority of the public's vote if he "wins" the next General Election...

Matt

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

And the 'proportional representation' advocates are now scuttling into their little holes because they know that their preferred version of democracy will see the BNP holding seats in Westminster. Oh, the delicious irony.

 

[Mad Cyril]

Cameron certainly won't get a majority of the public's vote if he "wins" the next General Election...

Matt

I'm sure he believes he was born for greatness so that won't bother him to much.

I'm sure Blair and Brown felt the same way.

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

And the 'proportional representation' advocates are now scuttling into their little holes because they know that their preferred version of democracy will see the BNP holding seats in Westminster. Oh, the delicious irony.

Not me. Any PR system must have a minimum requirement of obtaining 5% of the vote in any nation (i.e. England, Scotland, Wales or N. Ireland) before any party is able to get a seat - otherwise Parliament would be chaos.

For all their clamour, I don't think the BNP would get 5% of the vote nationally; but if they did, then they would be entitled to seats in Parliament. Frankly, if their presence shamed the big parties into dealing with them, then that would be no bad thing.

Personally, I'm still 100% behind PR.

Matt

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

For all their clamour, I don't think the BNP would get 5% of the vote nationally; but if they did, then they would be entitled to seats in Parliament. Frankly, if their presence shamed the big parties into dealing with them, then that would be no bad thing.

I'm rather interested to know what you mean by 'dealing with them'. Surely not banning?

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

I'm rather interested to know what you mean by 'dealing with them'. Surely not banning?

No! Demonstrating to the wider public what a vile bunch of knuckle-dragging, mindless, neo-Nazi racists they all are - and therefore that no one in their right mind should vote for them...

Matt

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

No! Demonstrating to the wider public what a vile bunch of knuckle-dragging, mindless, neo-Nazi racists they all are - and therefore that no one in their right mind should vote for them...

Matt

I think they're quite busy trying to reinforce those stereotypes right now, wouldn't you say? Nothing like a sweeping bit of generalisation to start the day!

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

I think they're quite busy trying to reinforce those stereotypes right now, wouldn't you say? Nothing like a sweeping bit of generalisation to start the day!

I love the smell of sweeping generalisation in the morning.

:)

 

[osymandus]

Not people like you osy, just the lumpen proletariat. And what do you suggest would be better - give power to the loser of the election? As long as he has a nickname that starts with 'Red'?

Get people more interested in politics , and in their running of their own lifes .

MTS: Sorry i thought it was a low turn out for BoJo. As you say the information would help people make a better more educated choice (cant really say right choice)

 

[Firestorm]

It wasn't BoJo who thought that Cyril, it was the Londeners (sic) themselves. The Tories won. Get over it.

If he didn't think he was the best man for the job, why did he stand for election in the first place.

 

[londonblue]

If they get elected, then yes, they should. You can't un-elect people because you disagree with them or dislike them. I know that really bothers the left, but it's just the way it is.

I'm left, and that doesn't bother me. All you do is don't vote for them. If they then happen to win, then you live with it. That's how democracy works.

 

[londonblue]

He's only been elected by the people of Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath.

There wasn't even a proper election within the Labour party to make him leader; it was more the sort of show election which would have made Kim Jong-Il blush.

But no different than John Major before him.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

But no different than John Major before him.

I would argue that Major's elevation to the leadership of the Conservatives was more democratic than the 'process' which took Brown to Number 10. He also won a subsequent General Election, and I don't think Mr Brown will be able to make the same claim. As for your earlier post, fair play to you.

 

[londonblue]

If they get elected, then yes, they should. You can't un-elect people because you disagree with them or dislike them. I know that really bothers the left, but it's just the way it is.

I think they're quite busy trying to reinforce those stereotypes right now, wouldn't you say? Nothing like a sweeping bit of generalisation to start the day!

Indeed......