2015 -16 Fixtures to be Released

[McNasty]

Just to remind new members that we are not allowed to publish the fixtures in full on the Zone.

We can, however, post first and last fixtures plus Christmas and New Year games but not the whole lot.

Cheers.

Ken/John

 

[Pubey]

The world's stupidest rule. Football can be a complete joke.

 

[chapperzUK]

I thought that it was ruled in a court that football fixtures couldn't be protected under copyright laws.

Although best to be safe than sorry and no need to post the whole list when they will be available on the OS & other websites.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Keeps it fresh and exciting - matches at secret locations. It's like the spirit of rave. Driving to phone boxes on the M25 and picking up a message - today it's away at Coventry.
Criminal Justice Bill in full effect.
Ave it.

 

[manor15]

I thought that it was ruled in a court that football fixtures couldn't be protected under copyright laws.

Although best to be safe than sorry and no need to post the whole list when they will be available on the OS & other websites.

Seems the EU court ruled that it did not fall under copyright, but that the decision was down to a UK court, can't find anything online about their judgement but I'm guessing they allowed it to count under copyright still.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17218968 from back in 2012.

 

[Pubey]

Seems the EU court ruled that it did not fall under copyright, but that the decision was down to a UK court, can't find anything online about their judgement but I'm guessing they allowed it to count under copyright still.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17218968 from back in 2012.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_DataCo#Court_Case_Results

So it sounds like it's fair use to publish the fixture lists in full - they don't have copyright. However as Ken says it probably makes sense not to do it.

 

[A Century United]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_DataCo#Court_Case_Results

So it sounds like it's fair use to publish the fixture lists in full - they don't have copyright. However as Ken says it probably makes sense not to do it.

The Claimants told the Court of Appeal that following the European Court of Justice's decision "CJEU Judgment"). [SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] They accepted they did not have rights in the Fixture Lists enabling them to charge licence fees for use of their fixture lists - some four years after the case had begun.

So it's no longer an issue if a small internet discussion board prints the fixture list.

 

[Crowstone Crevette]

OK, go on then, dare you!!! :winking:

 

[TrueBlue]

Need a **** game on the 12th September please as its my wedding

 

[The Big Shrimp]

Need a **** game on the 12th September please as its my wedding

Col Ewe it will be then! Either then or whilst I'm on holiday late October, early November!

 

[Berrichonne shrimper]

Is the date of your wedding not copyrigthed? and if so should not be printed.

 

[Lord Football]

When I ran the "other place that has now closed down" we got a nice email each August from a company called Datacom basically threatening us with legal action if fixtures appeared on our site. We were left with the impression that despite us being a non money making organisation they'd have no qualms about taking us to court and squeezing some cash from us.

Anyone remember when football really was the people's game?

 

[DoDTS]

All this is nothing new, poor old Wino would have had a breakdown:

FEBRUARY 1936

FIXTURES CANCELLED
Chairman of Southend United in Opposition. - In an effort to combat what they alleged in their resolution was the menace of pool betting, the Football League at a secret and hastily called meeting of clubs in Manchester decided to scrap the remainder of the season’s fixtures and arrange new dates, each being kept secret till the day before the actual match. This unexpected action apparently follows certain conferences between a sub-committee of the Football League and the Pools Promoters Association in which a large sum of money was said to have been mentioned by the latter in exchange for use of the fixture list. This statement was denied.

UNITED RECEIVE ---------
Southend United are at home on Saturday with a 3.30 p.m. kick off but beyond that I cannot add anything as owing to the amazing decision of the League to scrap the remainder of the season’s fixtures, it is not known which will be the opposing team. It should have been Bristol City but now supporters must curb their curiosity until Friday when full details of the opposition will appear.
From the Southend Standard 27th February 1936

Saturday 29th February 1936
With the battle between the Football League and the Pools Promoters Association in full swing it was the smaller League clubs who were paying the price, with attendances well down. The fixture against Bristol City had been cancelled and not until Saturday morning was it announced that Aldershot were the opposition but only 4,700 paid at the turnstiles, and there were just over 5,000 present including season ticket holders.

AT LAST
In the face of a growing storm of protest from clubs and the public the decision to scrap all the original fixtures in favour of secret games, not to be divulged until the day before the match was rescinded. Not only was this done but the whole of the previous resolutions as to the pools being a menace to the game were rescinded. It seems that the Football League has eaten its words and never in the history of the game has there been such an instance of precipitated and ill considered action.
From the Southend Standard 12th March 1936

 

[Depor_Shrimper]

All this is nothing new, poor old Wino would have had a breakdown:

FEBRUARY 1936

FIXTURES CANCELLED
Chairman of Southend United in Opposition. - In an effort to combat what they alleged in their resolution was the menace of pool betting, the Football League at a secret and hastily called meeting of clubs in Manchester decided to scrap the remainder of the season’s fixtures and arrange new dates, each being kept secret till the day before the actual match. This unexpected action apparently follows certain conferences between a sub-committee of the Football League and the Pools Promoters Association in which a large sum of money was said to have been mentioned by the latter in exchange for use of the fixture list. This statement was denied.

UNITED RECEIVE ---------
Southend United are at home on Saturday with a 3.30 p.m. kick off but beyond that I cannot add anything as owing to the amazing decision of the League to scrap the remainder of the season’s fixtures, it is not known which will be the opposing team. It should have been Bristol City but now supporters must curb their curiosity until Friday when full details of the opposition will appear.
From the Southend Standard 27th February 1936

Saturday 29th February 1936
With the battle between the Football League and the Pools Promoters Association in full swing it was the smaller League clubs who were paying the price, with attendances well down. The fixture against Bristol City had been cancelled and not until Saturday morning was it announced that Aldershot were the opposition but only 4,700 paid at the turnstiles, and there were just over 5,000 present including season ticket holders.

AT LAST
In the face of a growing storm of protest from clubs and the public the decision to scrap all the original fixtures in favour of secret games, not to be divulged until the day before the match was rescinded. Not only was this done but the whole of the previous resolutions as to the pools being a menace to the game were rescinded. It seems that the Football League has eaten its words and never in the history of the game has there been such an instance of precipitated and ill considered action.
From the Southend Standard 12th March 1936

But at least their new kits were launched weeks in advance.

 

[Depor_Shrimper]

Fleetwood away first game
Followed by Walsall at home

 

[Depor_Shrimper]

Boxing day AWAY at COL U!

 

[Depor_Shrimper]

Home to Millwall on Monday 28th December

 

[Up the Shrimpers]

We are always away on Boxing Day. Cant remember our last home game on Boxing Day.

 

[Colchester and proud!]

Boxing day AWAY at COL U!

Very predictable I guessed you lot would play us then either home or away.

 

[SUFC_Ross]

col ewe away on boxing day, there's going to be a few uneasy evenings in my household as I try to tell the mrs that I wont be around on boxing day....