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This one again, This one again, Please stop, I Pray I Pray I Pray - The current state of chanting.

Trends ebb and flow through the decades, as you age you notice this more and more it seems. When I first started attending games in the early to mid eighties the chants from the terracing were quite melodic and largely Christian Hymn based. I don't need to list them, those of a certain vintage will know most if not all of them. These were a staple for the longest time, stretching right the way through the nineties. Why these timeless tunes have been lost is perhaps a nod to the secularisation of society at large...but that's a discussion for another time.

As we progressed through the nineties, more contemporary tunes were thrashed out as they became popular (a mid nineties one that springs to mind as I type is Blur's "All the people", excellently adapted for the Shrimpers singers). As we moved into the new century we started hearing more dance tracks being adopted (insert names on fire, your defence is terrified), these were also very welcome for me as they were upbeat and suited thousands singing in unison.

The current trend, and one for me that has very much out stayed it's welcome, is the monotonous "Follow (insert team name) away" and "We're the (insert team name) boys, making all the noise" with precious little variety thereafter. Most every fanbase is guilty of it right now. I do not know where the "tunes" have been adopted from? In the past this was clear and obvious, and perhaps I'm a middle age grump shouting at the sky...but oh for rousing Chorus of "Southend, Southend, SOUTHEND!" aka Chelsea, hands aloft.

Standing on the atmospheric vacuum of the FGR terrace yesterday I was quite impressed with the small band of home supporters and the relative variety of songs they got through. There was one about Cheltenham. No matter what decade though I think we have always struggled to have a real identity through song. We have nothing involving our nickname as an easy example.

I think TBV have done a superb job since the mid naughties in uniting the fanbase in song, but I guess the lead voices change and promote the current trend. What's my point? I'm not sure there is one. I want to hear some of the old classics come back, but I sadly think they are lost to time as people simply do not hear those tunes in their lives. The hymn based chanting I guess arose because up to a certain point we all sung these in school assembly, maybe even on a Sunday with family.

Whatever the next thing is it can't come quick enough for me.
 
Trends ebb and flow through the decades, as you age you notice this more and more it seems. When I first started attending games in the early to mid eighties the chants from the terracing were quite melodic and largely Christian Hymn based. I don't need to list them, those of a certain vintage will know most if not all of them. These were a staple for the longest time, stretching right the way through the nineties. Why these timeless tunes have been lost is perhaps a nod to the secularisation of society at large...but that's a discussion for another time.

As we progressed through the nineties, more contemporary tunes were thrashed out as they became popular (a mid nineties one that springs to mind as I type is Blur's "All the people", excellently adapted for the Shrimpers singers). As we moved into the new century we started hearing more dance tracks being adopted (insert names on fire, your defence is terrified), these were also very welcome for me as they were upbeat and suited thousands singing in unison.

The current trend, and one for me that has very much out stayed it's welcome, is the monotonous "Follow (insert team name) away" and "We're the (insert team name) boys, making all the noise" with precious little variety thereafter. Most every fanbase is guilty of it right now. I do not know where the "tunes" have been adopted from? In the past this was clear and obvious, and perhaps I'm a middle age grump shouting at the sky...but oh for rousing Chorus of "Southend, Southend, SOUTHEND!" aka Chelsea, hands aloft.

Standing on the atmospheric vacuum of the FGR terrace yesterday I was quite impressed with the small band of home supporters and the relative variety of songs they got through. There was one about Cheltenham. No matter what decade though I think we have always struggled to have a real identity through song. We have nothing involving our nickname as an easy example.

I think TBV have done a superb job since the mid naughties in uniting the fanbase in song, but I guess the lead voices change and promote the current trend. What's my point? I'm not sure there is one. I want to hear some of the old classics come back, but I sadly think they are lost to time as people simply do not hear those tunes in their lives. The hymn based chanting I guess arose because up to a certain point we all sung these in school assembly, maybe even on a Sunday with family.

Whatever the next thing is it can't come quick enough for me.
I do hear you and having grown up in the 80s I also miss the older chants. I do like the one that’s in the tune of “When Johnny Comes Marching Home” .. that’s quite unique.
I did like the comeback of “we’re the North bank, we’re the North bank” when we had fans in there for a couple of games.
I rarely join in chants these days so tbh am just happy someone’s creating an atmosphere 🤣
 
I do hear you and having grown up in the 80s I also miss the older chants. I do like the one that’s in the tune of “When Johnny Comes Marching Home” .. that’s quite unique.
I did like the comeback of “we’re the North bank, we’re the North bank” when we had fans in there for a couple of games.
I rarely join in chants these days so tbh am just happy someone’s creating an atmosphere 🤣
Oh absolutely and I would take this all day, every day over nothing at all, of course. I'm sure you remember well the times when Roots Hall has been a like a Monastery, especially in the years following the new South stand. Even in the second tier (league not Frank Walton stand) there were times where even a round of applause for a substitution seemed too much to ask for. The atmosphere since the Tilson era has been superb.
 
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The 2 most effective ones are both 1960s songs. Twist and shout and I’m into something good. Even I was young then. Up the football league is a good one. Walking in a ….. wonderland. Worst one and quite pathetic was the sideways backwards chant.
My sister always sings me a chant she remembers from her youth when she’s over from Canada. It’s something like we don’t give a widdle and we don’t give a ****, we are the Southend North Bank. I’m sure some will know the full version.
The call and response Blue army is a good one but rarely heard now. That can get different parts of the crowd going.
 
Thanks for this thread, @L0311 Liberty Shrimper. Much more interesting than the endless threads on a theme I'm not allowed to refer to or I'll get moderated.

Football chanting has actually been the focus of investigation and study (like everything else, I guess). Not only do the chants/melodies tend to be the same around the UK, many of them travel around the globe. That means sometimes the donor song is from another country and very few English football fans are familiar with the original. Nevertheless, they soon pick up on the melody. I think this shows that familiarity with current UK pop trends isn't always the determining factor in what gets sung.
 
Thanks for this thread, @L0311 Liberty Shrimper. Much more interesting than the endless threads on a theme I'm not allowed to refer to or I'll get moderated.

Football chanting has actually been the focus of investigation and study (like everything else, I guess). Not only do the chants/melodies tend to be the same around the UK, many of them travel around the globe. That means sometimes the donor song is from another country and very few English football fans are familiar with the original. Nevertheless, they soon pick up on the melody. I think this shows that familiarity with current UK pop trends isn't always the determining factor in what gets sung.
Ah now this fascinating. I'd be very interested to read more about this Ipswhrimp.
 
With the new North Bank safe standing…

I’ve sifted through the remnants of the CEO meeting and decided this is the plan - might have made 7 out of 2+1 though

…and TBV moving in there, there will be a lot more room for the old North Bankers of yesteryear.

They could abandon the far flung spots of Roots Hall they have settled during the Ron years, pop to Specsavers to tune up their specs and ear horns, cast away the zimmers and get back stuck in.

Songs need starters, initiators - like the drummer. Seasoned voices with a few more tunes in their repertoire would be welcomed by the others I’m sure. The youngsters will pick up the tunes quickly enough.

A few of the old favourites with words tweaked for 2025 players and sensibilities would be amazing. Just need to coordinate with the drummer so he can support with the right beat etc.
 
One that made me larf a few years ago was the Swansea fans at Norwich singing "You're just a small town in Ipswich".

Also when with Oldham relatives at Bury a few years back hearing Latics fans singing "We're taking over your town, again" to the tune of "Love, love will tear us apart" by Joy Division. It works really well. Our fans should adopt it on our away trips with massive support
 

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