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Breaking News Season ticket prices go up for 2023/24

I'm not even sure what the point of that question is to be honest. My point was that we buy our season ticket to watch Southend United, not to visit Roots Hall. That just happens to be the home ground.

Would you pay £145 to watch Chelmsford City play on a park pitch?
I see his point. You’re paying almost 400 notes to bask in the aroma of fox ****, sit in a (probably) broken seat, no Bovril at the snack bar, awful quality “facilities”, paint peeling, leaks, cardboard burgers, broken turnstiles, a bar with a collapsed roof etc etc ..

To expect SUFC fans to absorb an above inflation rise in prices given the quality on offer and the fact we’ve spent most of this season under an embargo is just a bit cheeky. Value for money it ain’t..
 
I'm not even sure what the point of that question is to be honest. My point was that we buy our season ticket to watch Southend United, not to visit Roots Hall. That just happens to be the home ground.

Would you pay £145 to watch Chelmsford City play on a park pitch?
My point is that we probably wouldn't be charged £380 to stand on the sidelines and watch Southend United on a park pitch, so I'd mark the facilities down as part of the equation, regardless of whether you feel that you're directly paying to use them.

There are so, so many shades of grey and pieces of context that are unique to our club to consider when discussing this. However, the club has treated its fans (customers!) utterly appallingly; has deliberately allowed the facilities that it hosts them in to fall into disrepair and become a public hazard to their health and safety; continues to put on a poor all-round match day experience; and has consistently ignored or rubbished ideas and initiatives for improvement. Leaving aside whether said ideas or initiatives would improve fan comfortability and experience and just concentrating on the financial slant, they won't even consider any ideas or initiatives around catering which would involve a little outlay now but likely score them some profit once bedded in.

They've completely given up on Roots Hall and don't give a **** about fan experience or the environment provided there, despite the fact that we could be there for another 2-3 seasons yet (H&S certificate allowing) They have become lazy and increasingly unaccountable. They are relying on our blind acceptance, loyalty and good will and are hedging their bets on everything being sunshine and unicorn farts once Fossetts Farm opens. It's unacceptable.

I've heard the phrase "next generation of fan" used a few times - well we're not going to attract them at Roots Hall. I know a couple of parents who won't bring their kids to Roots Hall because, as one told me, "it's a ****hole". Rightly or wrongly, quality and safety of facilities comes into it for them. I'm not saying pour money into a pit and spend a **** tonne at Roots Hall, but at the opposite end of the spectrum, why wait until Fossetts Farm to try to provide a pleasant environment and experience at a minimum to attract that next generation of fan - especially when Fossetts Farm keeps getting pushed further and further back?

They've got some ****ing gall raising prices by that much and they need to be called out on it.
 
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I see his point. You’re paying almost 400 notes to bask in the aroma of fox ****, sit in a (probably) broken seat, no Bovril at the snack bar, awful quality “facilities”, paint peeling, leaks, cardboard burgers, broken turnstiles, a bar with a collapsed roof etc etc ..

To expect SUFC fans to absorb an above inflation rise in prices given the quality on offer and the fact we’ve spent most of this season under an embargo is just a bit cheeky. Value for money it ain’t..
Brilliantly put 👏 👏
 
Leedsufc "I'd be quite ****ed off if I was a Wrexham fan, paying £340 when millionaires own the club and purposely pay over the odds on players to get promotion. AND pay that **** Shaun Harvey a wage. Especially as their new stand is paid for by the levelling up fund."

I am sorry I do not understand your paragraph and who is Shaun Harvey?

The money the fans are paying does not equate to better players at Wrexham. The owners are funnelling money to the amount of League 1 salaries to a handful of them.

Shaun Harvey... The former CEO of the EFL. During his time he:

He sold the EFL rights to Sky Sports cheaply without asking Amazon/Apple/BT for bids. Massively undervalued the EFL to the extent the Championship nearly broke away from the EFL.

He admitted EFL long journey away games were organised to be mid-week rather than Saturdays, so Sky would be inclined to show them, or fans would buy iFollow passes at £10 a pop.

He killed the Football League Trophy to please the premier league. Instead of a true lower league competition, everyone got a £30k bribe to allow U21 premier league teams play. Whilst the games were now utterly pointless, EFL teams who played weaker teams than their full strength XI would receive a fine.

The League Cup going from being sponsored by Carling to Carabao, with the draw being held in Asia at 4am. Not being televised on UK TV.

4 clubs he has being apart of:

Farsley Celtic
Scarborough
Bradford City
Leeds United

All 4 have been in administration whilst he was there, 2 of them do not exist today.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. A terrible man to football.
 
The money the fans are paying does not equate to better players at Wrexham. The owners are funnelling money to the amount of League 1 salaries to a handful of them.

Shaun Harvey... The former CEO of the EFL. During his time he:

He sold the EFL rights to Sky Sports cheaply without asking Amazon/Apple/BT for bids. Massively undervalued the EFL to the extent the Championship nearly broke away from the EFL.

He admitted EFL long journey away games were organised to be mid-week rather than Saturdays, so Sky would be inclined to show them, or fans would buy iFollow passes at £10 a pop.

He killed the Football League Trophy to please the premier league. Instead of a true lower league competition, everyone got a £30k bribe to allow U21 premier league teams play. Whilst the games were now utterly pointless, EFL teams who played weaker teams than their full strength XI would receive a fine.

The League Cup going from being sponsored by Carling to Carabao, with the draw being held in Asia at 4am. Not being televised on UK TV.

4 clubs he has being apart of:

Farsley Celtic
Scarborough
Bradford City
Leeds United

All 4 have been in administration whilst he was there, 2 of them do not exist today.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. A terrible man to football.

Yes, but apart from that he's all right....... didn't rate him in East 17 though.
 
I'm not even sure what the point of that question is to be honest. My point was that we buy our season ticket to watch Southend United, not to visit Roots Hall. That just happens to be the home ground.

Would you pay £145 to watch Chelmsford City play on a park pitch?
No I wouldn't, but I'd consider paying that given I can sit with my Dad in a clean environment with a pint and chips in my hand, move around the stadium as I see fit, and all for less than watching Southend in a cesspit for three times the price, and with no prospect of meaningful progress under the current stewardship.

Everybody has a limit.
 
The money the fans are paying does not equate to better players at Wrexham. The owners are funnelling money to the amount of League 1 salaries to a handful of them.

Shaun Harvey... The former CEO of the EFL. During his time he:

He sold the EFL rights to Sky Sports cheaply without asking Amazon/Apple/BT for bids. Massively undervalued the EFL to the extent the Championship nearly broke away from the EFL.

He admitted EFL long journey away games were organised to be mid-week rather than Saturdays, so Sky would be inclined to show them, or fans would buy iFollow passes at £10 a pop.

He killed the Football League Trophy to please the premier league. Instead of a true lower league competition, everyone got a £30k bribe to allow U21 premier league teams play. Whilst the games were now utterly pointless, EFL teams who played weaker teams than their full strength XI would receive a fine.

The League Cup going from being sponsored by Carling to Carabao, with the draw being held in Asia at 4am. Not being televised on UK TV.

4 clubs he has being apart of:

Farsley Celtic
Scarborough
Bradford City
Leeds United

All 4 have been in administration whilst he was there, 2 of them do not exist today.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. A terrible man to football.
Thank you for letting me know....Good God that is so shocking......How the hell did he get away with it all of that I wonder.
 
I see his point. You’re paying almost 400 notes to bask in the aroma of fox ****, sit in a (probably) broken seat, no Bovril at the snack bar, awful quality “facilities”, paint peeling, leaks, cardboard burgers, broken turnstiles, a bar with a collapsed roof etc etc ..

To expect SUFC fans to absorb an above inflation rise in prices given the quality on offer and the fact we’ve spent most of this season under an embargo is just a bit cheeky. Value for money it ain’t..
You think Roots Hall is bad, try a visit to Eastleigh's ground what an experience that was.
You think things are bad at the Hall that will really open your eyes to how bad it could really get....Lol
 
It didn't make any difference to me when I turned 60 in 2021, it's the age you are at the time of the games, not the time you renew, My birthday was also in July and I renewed in the early bird period and got the concession.
In my experience no one in the ticket office asks for any age ID anyway, and with most if not all staff in the ticket office being barely out of their teens to them anyone over 40 probably looks like a geriatric. It worked for me, although I do look particularly decrepit.
 
I see his point. You’re paying almost 400 notes to bask in the aroma of fox ****, sit in a (probably) broken seat, no Bovril at the snack bar, awful quality “facilities”, paint peeling, leaks, cardboard burgers, broken turnstiles, a bar with a collapsed roof etc etc ..

To expect SUFC fans to absorb an above inflation rise in prices given the quality on offer and the fact we’ve spent most of this season under an embargo is just a bit cheeky. Value for money it ain’t..

No...that is an element of what I expect for my money. There is only so far that blind loyalty will mask the inadequacy of the infrastructure.
If I can expect better facilities at some Essex Senior League venues then there is something cataclysmically wrong.

No I wouldn't, but I'd consider paying that given I can sit with my Dad in a clean environment with a pint and chips in my hand, move around the stadium as I see fit, and all for less than watching Southend in a cesspit for three times the price, and with no prospect of meaningful progress under the current stewardship.

Everybody has a limit.
My point is that we probably wouldn't be charged £380 to stand on the sidelines and watch Southend United on a park pitch, so I'd mark the facilities down as part of the equation, regardless of whether you feel that you're directly paying to use them.

There are so, so many shades of grey and pieces of context that are unique to our club to consider when discussing this. However, the club has treated its fans (customers!) utterly appallingly; has deliberately allowed the facilities that it hosts them in to fall into disrepair and become a public hazard to their health and safety; continues to put on a poor all-round match day experience; and has consistently ignored or rubbished ideas and initiatives for improvement. Leaving aside whether said ideas or initiatives would improve fan comfortability and experience and just concentrating on the financial slant, they won't even consider any ideas or initiatives around catering which would involve a little outlay now but likely score them some profit once bedded in.

They've completely given up on Roots Hall and don't give a **** about fan experience or the environment provided there, despite the fact that we could be there for another 2-3 seasons yet (H&S certificate allowing) They have become lazy and increasingly unaccountable. They are relying on our blind acceptance, loyalty and good will and are hedging their bets on everything being sunshine and unicorn farts once Fossetts Farm opens. It's unacceptable.

I've heard the phrase "next generation of fan" used a few times - well we're not going to attract them at Roots Hall. I know a couple of parents who won't bring their kids to Roots Hall because, as one told me, "it's a ****hole". Rightly or wrongly, quality and safety of facilities comes into it for them. I'm not saying pour money into a pit and spend a **** tonne at Roots Hall, but at the opposite end of the spectrum, why wait until Fossetts Farm to try to provide a pleasant environment and experience at a minimum to attract that next generation of fan - especially when Fossetts Farm keeps getting pushed further and further back?

They've got some ****ing gall raising prices by that much and they need to be called out on it.

I think I see it a different way.

Southend United is the team I have supported since 1969 and I've had a season ticket for god knows how many years. The football club needs income, and one of those income streams is gate receipts and season ticket prices.

I will always - if possible - go and see the side play at home, so for me it is purely an economic decision. The earlier I get the ticket the cheaper it is for me, so I would do it for financially selfish reasons. In the same way, I buy a shirt a season. I don't moan about the price, I don't care what mark-up is made; it's another way of me helping provide funds to the club I have supported for 53 years.

To use an extreme example - if a football club has 100 supporters and it costs £50,000 a year to keep the club alive, then someone has to pay the costs. If the only source of income that club had was gate receipts, then each supporter would have to pay £500 a year.

You'll get the point I'm making I'm sure. The above is a completely fictional example and I only quoted it to illustrate the economic reasons. But if we are true "supporters", then that support has to have a financial element, otherwise you're not really supporting. For instance, fans who refuse to attend home games, don't buy any merchandise and basically give none of their money to the club aren't supporters at all. In fact, if they follow the team away from home, then they are financially supporting the other club.

So, to answer @Medway Blue and the original point, if I was a Southend fan and the only way I would get to see them play was by me and others paying £380 a season to watch on a park pitch then yes, I probably would, and I'd never pay £145 to watch Chelmsford City anywhere because I'm not a Chelmsford fan. If I was swayed by the stadium, I'd go and watch Spurs or Arsenal. If I wanted a decent stadium outside the Prem, then there are plenty of decent ones but MK Dons is excellent, so that would get my vote. But of course, I'm not going to do any of these things because I follow Southend, not any of the other clubs.

I think for me, the question is, if you are a Southend fan and are going to watch the team anyway, why would you NOT take advantage of the early bird prices?

And I suspect the answer to that question is "Ron Martin". Which is fine, if that's how everyone feels. I guess I just don't care about him enough to let his dreadful antics completely ruin the longest relationship I have had in my life. I just want to cheer the team on, hopefully watch them win, rinse and repeat.

But that's just me and I know everyone won't feel the same.
 
This probably won’t be a popular opinion given the demographics of this site but where I think the pricing is most wrong is that the senior category should be aligned to the state retirement age. It seems really strange to be subsidising 60 year olds still in employment (or in some cases well enough off to opt for early (non-medical) retirement).
 
I'm 60 in July so was going to delay renewal untill then anyway to get old gits rate 😉

I know being fair can be a bit frowned on at the moment but I do feel the club using 60 as the OAP discount age is that as several other clubs require you to be even older !.

I was 60 in September a few years ago and at that stage the club gave me the lower rate when I renewed early even though my birthday was after the season started. Might be worth asking if you wanted the early discount
 

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