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A Bit of Fun 2021 Transfer Rumours Thread (Potential New Signings)

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thiS is just a little starter taster for you

Journel of Sports science

”Some players become jaded early in pre season, the main advantage of a longer pre season is the advantage of achieving high tactical familiarity, and team cohesion before the new season starts due to the extra training and friendliest”

”it’s important to prepare players effectively during pre season trading so that they can achieve high match performance levels as soon as the new season starts and that players can cope physically, a main advantage in a longer pre season together is the achievement of high tactical familiarity, player development and team cohesion, and planning to ensure PEAK performance

Attributes and conditioning do drop pff in the close season, especially tactical familiarity and team cohesion

A study , well researched looked at pre season signings over a period of years in the Premiership , the published article clearly referenced how teams that completed their business early and had their squad together finished higher in the league in the majority of circumstances than those that didn’t

i could produce more of this but there will only be more smart arses poo pooing it or suggesting I’m banging on too much about it
Who’s disagreeing with you over the need for a decent pre season and having players prepared? I’m sure PB would agree, almost certain in fact. I will stick my neck on the line and say we will definitely not start as badly as we have done the last 2 seasons.
I'm sure Ricky and Phil are identifying targets and trying to bring them in ASAP. Hopefully some announcements soon!
 
thiS is just a little starter taster for you

Journel of Sports science

”Some players become jaded early in pre season, the main advantage of a longer pre season is the advantage of achieving high tactical familiarity, and team cohesion before the new season starts due to the extra training and friendliest”

”it’s important to prepare players effectively during pre season trading so that they can achieve high match performance levels as soon as the new season starts and that players can cope physically, a main advantage in a longer pre season together is the achievement of high tactical familiarity, player development and team cohesion, and planning to ensure PEAK performance

Attributes and conditioning do drop pff in the close season, especially tactical familiarity and team cohesion

A study , well researched looked at pre season signings over a period of years in the Premiership , the published article clearly referenced how teams that completed their business early and had their squad together finished higher in the league in the majority of circumstances than those that didn’t

i could produce more of this but there will only be more smart arses poo pooing it or suggesting I’m banging on too much about it
An article that states the obvious and mentions research, but is not the research in itself. Also covers a different topic and is focused on the world of the Premiership.

Not that I disagree with what it's saying. It is stating the obvious.

I said what I think in my previous post and, in essence, I doubt we're that far apart in truth.
 

thiS is just a little starter taster for you

Journel of Sports science

”Some players become jaded early in pre season, the main advantage of a longer pre season is the advantage of achieving high tactical familiarity, and team cohesion before the new season starts due to the extra training and friendliest”

”it’s important to prepare players effectively during pre season trading so that they can achieve high match performance levels as soon as the new season starts and that players can cope physically, a main advantage in a longer pre season together is the achievement of high tactical familiarity, player development and team cohesion, and planning to ensure PEAK performance

Attributes and conditioning do drop pff in the close season, especially tactical familiarity and team cohesion

A study , well researched looked at pre season signings over a period of years in the Premiership , the published article clearly referenced how teams that completed their business early and had their squad together finished higher in the league in the majority of circumstances than those that didn’t

i could produce more of this but there will only be more smart arses poo pooing it or suggesting I’m banging on too much about it

You have made the same 'research' claim many times Bazza. You always use the PL and once explained how our sister club Chelsea operate.

The problem with that has always been the fact that the wealthiest clubs can choose targets 6 months in advance. The Fulhams and the WBA of the world have to plan differently and are streets away from the big 6.

Even in the Championship with one of the clubs you mentioned this week, Brentford. They made an illegal approach to Dan Bentley and secured a deal two years before he left us. He was never going to sign for Burton that season was he?

As others have said no one who has ever played even Sunday football disagrees with a descent pre season. PB certainly loves the idea so no need to preach to the choir. Lets also not forget here in the real world you championed a club who had signed 15 players one summer before we had signed one. Their name.....Well the used to be called Bury but i'm not quite sure these days.....Perhaps someone could do some research.
 
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The majority of the articles in the British Journel of Sports Science are based on research. They are not something dreamt up overnight. Taking Sports Scientists alone these experts , based in many professional Football clubs around the World have probably spent 3 years getting their degree, perhaps with Honours.

Im sure their various theses , essays and maybe distinctions were based on their own original thinking?? Or is it m just possible they had to quote thousands of pieces of research

Sorry I dont happen to have them all too hand
 
Also if its so bleedin obvious how come we have been so consistently poor at it although suppose not paying wages, embargo after embargo 17 or 18 times up before HMRC and , being in an utter mess plays a bit of a part ?
 



You have made the same 'research' claim many times Bazza. You always use the PL and once explained how our sister club Chelsea operate.

The problem with that has always been the fact that the wealthiest clubs can choose targets 6 months in advance. The Fulhams and the WBA of the world.

Even in the Championship with one of the clubs you mentioned this week, Brentford. They made an illegal approach to Dan Bentley and secured a deal two years before he left us. He was never going to sign for Burton that season was he?

As others have said no one who has ever played even Sunday football disagrees with a descent pre season. PB certainly loves the idea so no need to preach to the choir. Lets also not forget here in the real world you championed a club who had signed 15 players one summer before we had signed one. Their name.....Well the used to be called Bury but i'm not quite sure these days.....Perhaps someone could do some research.

Dont even get me started on the longer list of teams I could quote who have brought in lots of players and had significant success , but I know you love to keep throwing Bury out there. I would hate to bore people by spending hours listing all the successful over the few failures
 

As others have said no one who has ever played even Sunday football disagrees with a descent pre season. PB certainly loves the idea so no need to preach to the choir. Lets also not forget here in the real world you championed a club who had signed 15 players one summer before we had signed one. Their name.....Well the used to be called Bury but i'm not quite sure these days.....Perhaps someone could do some research.

Bury fans set up a new club known as Bury AFC, and after a year without football, were allocated a place in the 10th-tier North West Counties League Division One North for the 2020-21 season.
 
Bury fans set up a new club known as Bury AFC, and after a year without football, were allocated a place in the 10th-tier North West Counties League Division One North for the 2020-21 season.
You have to give their supporters credit for the way they handled the **** sandwich that came their way. Their love for Steve Dale is so obvious (that was ironic before anyone starts). I was a member of their fans board and now I've been transferred to their new site. There are a lot similarities between their fans and ours and they have their fair share of whingers etc on their board.
 



You have made the same 'research' claim many times Bazza. You always use the PL and once explained how our sister club Chelsea operate.

The problem with that has always been the fact that the wealthiest clubs can choose targets 6 months in advance. The Fulhams and the WBA of the world.

Even in the Championship with one of the clubs you mentioned this week, Brentford. They made an illegal approach to Dan Bentley and secured a deal two years before he left us. He was never going to sign for Burton that season was he?

As others have said no one who has ever played even Sunday football disagrees with a descent pre season. PB certainly loves the idea so no need to preach to the choir. Lets also not forget here in the real world you championed a club who had signed 15 players one summer before we had signed one. Their name.....Well the used to be called Bury but i'm not quite sure these days.....Perhaps someone could do some research.
Bless u riggers ,thanks for a bit of the real world we now find ourselves
 
Bless u riggers ,thanks for a bit of the real world we now find ourselves

Indeed, whilst Abramovich will be there to personally greet his latest target and supermodel girlfriend as they land on the helipad of his private yacht, for week of fun in Med.....Ron is looking across the RH car park from one of those death traps of a portacabins piled 3 high.....

Maybe that player did arrive with his wife and agent. They noticed the buildings around the Golden Lion and the pram shop opposite. They may have just done a u turn without losing the exhaust in one of the car park pot holes.

The real reason might be down to the fact another NL team offered them £450 a week more.....PL or NL, doesn't sound that different when you say it.
 
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The problem with that has always been the fact that the wealthiest clubs can choose targets 6 months in advance. The Fulhams and the WBA of the world.

I'd say more organised clubs rather than wealthy ones. Having a structure where you have a group of 2 or 3 people who can find potential signings months in advance will give you a big advantage.

Clubs that get their business done early have most likely been monitoring them for months and would have a big list of players who they could potentially sign.

The difference between us and those higher up is that we have a much bigger pool to pick from, which can make signing the right player harder. The bigger clubs, like Chelsea, have a much smaller pool to pick from (if you ignore the young talent they hoover up in an attempt that one becomes a first team player or is sold for high value). How many players that are realistically available would improve our starting 11? Probably 50+ being on the lower end of the estimate. How maybe players that are realistically available to Chelsea that would improve their starting 11? Maybe 5 at most.

The fact is that we don't know what happens behind the scenes at a club, we only hear rumours, sound bites from managers, and the confirmed signings. There could be a list of 20 or so local talented players who we are monitoring to see if they are making the progress to become a signing or not.
 
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There are valid concerns I agree. Although it's hard to judge because the goalposts are changing so fast for all the managers we have had in the past three years.

Every manager since Brown has had to cut the cloth thanks to the money paid out on the Kightlys, Kiernans, Turners, Ferdinands and Coxes. Chris Powell would still have been expected to sign good League One players to push for promotion, and he did to an extent (Humphrys, Hopper, Ladapo) but was hammered by injuries. Things were clearly starting to hit when Bond took charge and he was forced to look to Scotland, never a good sign.

Then when Campbell came in things had really gone to pot and he basically wasn't allowed to sign anyone.

Molesley was in the same boat, embargo in place and was faced with an additional difficulty in that the club was falling fast and agents/players were well aware they could end up with an EFL relegation on their CV. He was actually going for the type of players that personally I was on board with, youngish, hungry with a non-league background and the best years of their careers ahead of them. However, the issue he had was actually getting them in the door. It still rankles when he gets pelters for letting Barratt go, when basically in order to bring in his own players and put his stamp on the side, it was one in, one out and he was limited with what he could do.

Now we have had the ultimate drop but yet seem to be much more financially stable, so we can't attract the players we used to, but we are able to flex our muscle a little bit as we benefit from money that other clubs don't get at this level. Brown clearly favours experience and that is not necessarily a bad thing, but there's definitely been a few warning signs, and many of us remember why he lost his job in the first place - and the effect that the largesse he enjoyed in his previous spell (I know he didn't sign the cheques) had on his successors.

This has all taken place in the space of three years, and it's incredibly difficult for every manager that walks in the door to constantly adapt. But Brown could do himself and us all a favour by stopping the constant chirping at previous regimes. Aside from being classless, it shows he has absolutely no understanding of the mistakes that were made last time he was at the club, and the consequences.
And it is a fact that PB's last managerial achievement was our promotion from League 2 to League 1 via the playoffs in 2015.
 
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