The Last Word A Few Facts

[TMWLT]

1. 1 in 7 of new arrivals from East Europe have no means to support themselves meaning that they instantly have access to benefit support on average 700 new arrivals every day.

2. In the PCT for South East Essex there are 205 registered HIV positive cases 90% of which are West African, the cost of the treatment for one year per person is £25,000 approx

3.In January 2007 the amount of offences of picketpocketing on the Unerground rose from 295 to 595 approx of those arrested 75% were from Romania or Bulgaria.


If you are really happy with the above figures, then you really deserve the politicians you elect.

 

[canveyshrimper]

1. 1 in 7 of new arrivals from East Europe have no means to support themselves meaning that they instantly have access to benefit support on average 700 new arrivals every day.

2. In the PCT for South East Essex there are 205 registered HIV positive cases 90% of which are West African, the cost of the treatment for one year per person is £25,000 approx

3.In January 2007 the amount of offences of picketpocketing on the Unerground rose from 295 to 595 approx of those arrested 75% were from Romania or Bulgaria.


If you are really happy with the above figures, then you really deserve the politicians you elect.

Ok I'll bite, what are the source of these statistics?

 

[MK Shrimper]

Statistics can be twisted both ways. I don't have the time or the urge to find these figures out but,

% of the NHS workers that has nurses/doctors from overseas?
% of British farms that rely on overseas labour to get their harvest picked?
% of tax generated by immigrants.

And I haven't voted labour since 1997 and unless they move left (yes left) I will never, ever again.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

1. 1 in 7 of new arrivals from East Europe have no means to support themselves meaning that they instantly have access to benefit support on average 700 new arrivals every day.

So 6 out of 7 (or 85% of) new arrivals from East Europe have the means to support themselves and therefore are actively contributing to the economy.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Statistics can be twisted both ways. I don't have the time or the urge to find these figures out but,

% of the NHS workers that has nurses/doctors from overseas?
% of British farms that rely on overseas labour to get their harvest picked?
% of tax generated by immigrants.

And I haven't voted labour since 1997 and unless they move left (yes left) I will never, ever again.

I was diagnosed by an African doctor at southend hospital of having pleurisy. When the pain didn't subside, I went back and it turns out that I had 2 broken ribs. You use a doctor form a 3rd world country you will get a 3rd world diagnosis!!

Hospitals are dirty places, it's because most of the cleaners are from 3rd world countries who clean to a 3rd world standard!!

 

[canveyshrimper]

I was diagnosed by an African doctor at southend hospital of having pleurisy. When the pain didn't subside, I went back and it turns out that I had 2 broken ribs. You use a doctor form a 3rd world country you will get a 3rd world diagnosis!!

Hospitals are dirty places, it's because most of the cleaners are from 3rd world countries who clean to a 3rd world standard!!

Oh and us British are such paragons of hygiene. Any doctor can make a misdiagnosis. And to make such a generalisation about hospital cleanliness is IMO utter bullcr*p. From personal experience my mother has been in Southend for almost 4 months and the standards of the wards she has been in have been immaculate.

Indeed so have the nurses from England, China, Hong Kong, Poland and Africa. Plus her consultant from India and her SHO who is German.

 

[Napster]

I was diagnosed by an African doctor at southend hospital of having pleurisy. When the pain didn't subside, I went back and it turns out that I had 2 broken ribs. You use a doctor form a 3rd world country you will get a 3rd world diagnosis!!

Hospitals are dirty places, it's because most of the cleaners are from 3rd world countries who clean to a 3rd world standard!!

I hope that's tongue-in-cheek!

I was diagnosed recently by three white doctors wrongly before being correctly diagnosed by a Sikh.

 

[Wessex]

I hope that's tongue-in-cheek!

I was diagnosed recently by three white doctors wrongly before being correctly diagnosed by a Sikh.

Ah but was he a British Sikh or a foreign Sikh....????

 

[dloman]

I was diagnosed by an African doctor at southend hospital of having pleurisy. When the pain didn't subside, I went back and it turns out that I had 2 broken ribs. You use a doctor form a 3rd world country you will get a 3rd world diagnosis!!

Hospitals are dirty places, it's because most of the cleaners are from 3rd world countries who clean to a 3rd world standard!!

And without these overseas staff you are talking about, we wouldn't have any NHS as it would almost certainly collapse.

and so would pretty much of the UK economy.

 

[andrew_sthnd]

I was diagnosed by an African doctor at southend hospital of having pleurisy. When the pain didn't subside, I went back and it turns out that I had 2 broken ribs. You use a doctor form a 3rd world country you will get a 3rd world diagnosis!!

Hospitals are dirty places, it's because most of the cleaners are from 3rd world countries who clean to a 3rd world standard!!

So one African doctor makes a misdiagnosis and suddenly all African doctors are rubbish?!?!?! What bollox! :guns:

 

[Napster]

Ah but was he a British Sikh or a foreign Sikh....????

:thump:

I didn't ask as it wasn't important!

 

[londonblue]

So 6 out of 7 (or 85% of) new arrivals from East Europe have the means to support themselves and therefore are actively contributing to the economy.

And are therefore more than paying for the 1 in 7 that can't support themselves.

Great stat that!

 

[Pubey]

And are therefore more than paying for the 1 in 7 that can't support themselves.

Great stat that!

lol!! :flamer:

 

[Firestorm]

1. 1 in 7 of new arrivals from East Europe have no means to support themselves meaning that they instantly have access to benefit support on average 700 new arrivals every day.

2. In the PCT for South East Essex there are 205 registered HIV positive cases 90% of which are West African, the cost of the treatment for one year per person is £25,000 approx

3.In January 2007 the amount of offences of picketpocketing on the Unerground rose from 295 to 595 approx of those arrested 75% were from Romania or Bulgaria.


If you are really happy with the above figures, then you really deserve the politicians you elect.

1) 6/7 or 86 % of new arrivals from East Europe have adequate means to support themselves

2) it is extremely well documented that aid is far more prevelant in Africa than any other continent, This is largely as a consequence of the the appalling human rights issues being carried out there including the systematic rape of women and children to subjugate the population. These are the very reasons Africans are seeking asylum in our country, for their safety

3) Unfortunately without the number of arrests for pickpocking or the number of offences attributed to each offender it is diificult to assimilate the two sets of statistics (ie Number of offences to nationality of those caught) Basically as those statistics stand the only meaningful conclusion which can be drawn is that Pickpockets from nations other than Romania and Bulgaria are less likely to get caught


BTW as 90% of all murders are committed by Men , perhaps we should kick everyone with a **** out of the country...........

 

[MK Shrimper]

Top work Firestorm.

 

[DTS]

2) it is extremely well documented that aid is far more prevelant in Africa than any other continent, This is largely as a consequence of the the appalling human rights issues being carried out there including the systematic rape of women and children to subjugate the population. These are the very reasons Africans are seeking asylum in our country, for their safety
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Having seen a large number of African men on the prowl in Brighton I would suggest the basic problem is that black men will sleep with any women regardless of size, looks, smells, colour , disability - And that is a fact.

 

[londonblue]

And we still haven't had an explanation of how it is possible to reconcile a racist attitude with cheering black Southend footballers.

 

[DTS]

2) it is extremely well documented that aid is far more prevelant in Africa than any other continent, This is largely as a consequence of the the appalling human rights issues being carried out there including the systematic rape of women and children to subjugate the population. These are the very reasons Africans are seeking asylum in our country, for their safety
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Having seen a large number of African men on the prowl in Brighton I would suggest the basic problem is not the hygeine more the fact that black men will sleep with any women regardless of size, looks, smells, colour , disability - And that is a fact.

 

[Slipperduke]

2) it is extremely well documented that aid is far more prevelant in Africa than any other continent, This is largely as a consequence of the the appalling human rights issues being carried out there including the systematic rape of women and children to subjugate the population. These are the very reasons Africans are seeking asylum in our country, for their safety
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Having seen a large number of African men on the prowl in Brighton I would suggest the basic problem is that black men will sleep with any women regardless of size, looks, smells, colour , disability - And that is a fact.

I'm afraid that's not a syndrome exclusive to African men. You should have seen me at University.

 

[andrew_sthnd]

Having seen a large number of African men on the prowl in Brighton I would suggest the basic problem is that black men will sleep with any women regardless of size, looks, smells, colour , disability - And that is a fact.

Erm well its not is it?! i think you will find out that its your opinion! I actually find that a very racist and narrow minded statement!