The fbm view and ratings

[fbm]

Sent for formatting. Up on front page soon.

 

[moneypit23]

lol. was looking forward to reading it.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Report now up on the front page, thanks again fbm.

 

[DTS]

As always FBM a very good read.

Disagree totally with two of your marks. I though Wilson was terrible in the first half and just about acceptable in the second.

The Bradbury mark I felt was low. I though he was imenense. Up and down all day didnt miss a header and was a total menace. In my book he was worth a mark as high as anyone bar Freddy who should have his own scale.

DtS

 

[C C Csiders]

Quote[/b] (Dave the Shrimper @ April 09 2006,20:34)]As always FBM a very good read.

Disagree totally with two of your marks. I though Wilson was terrible in the first half and just about acceptable in the second.

The Bradbury mark I felt was low. I though he was imenense. Up and down all day didnt miss a header and was a total menace. In my book he was worth a mark as high as anyone bar Freddy who should have his own scale.

DtS

With you DtS. Wilson 5 at most I think, Bradbury a 7.5 at least

Hunt deffo MoM.

 

[fbm]

Actually, in my email report sent, I gave Wilson a 6.

Andee?

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Sorry guys/gals was putting the kids to bed at the time of formatting the report.

fbm if you could put the players in the same order as usual format these little glitches would be avoided.

 

[McNasty]

Quote[/b] (Bob Cratchitt @ April 09 2006,23:29)]Sorry guys/gals was putting the kids to bed at the time of formatting the report.

fbm if you could put the players in the same order as usual format these little glitches would be avoided.  

fbm, you can't get the staff these days.

 

[Beefy]

"The game itself was poor, and Southend's performance poorer, but all of that is irrelevant at this stage where points definitely mean prizes."

I've got to disagree slightly with this. I didn't think our performance was bad. It wasn't top notch by any means but just because we didn't win 4-0 doesn't mean we under-performed. We scored two, hit the post once, had an unbelieveable chance through Goater and created several other chances which Barrett, Maher and Eastwood missed.

This isn't a pop at you fbm, because I've read several people saying that we were poor, but it does worry me that we're setting too high a standard for the lads.

 

[Joolz]

Quote[/b] (Beefy @ April 10 2006,13:10)]"The game itself was poor, and Southend's performance poorer, but all of that is irrelevant at this stage where points definitely mean prizes."

I've got to disagree slightly with this. I didn't think our performance was bad. It wasn't top notch by any means but just because we didn't win 4-0 doesn't mean we under-performed. We scored two, hit the post once, had an unbelieveable chance through Goater and created several other chances which Barrett, Maher and Eastwood missed.

This isn't a pop at you fbm, because I've read several people saying that we were poor, but it does worry me that we're setting too high a standard for the lads.

Agree with that Beefy - seen a lot lot worse.

 

[fbm]

Quote[/b] (Joolz @ April 10 2006,13:14)]

Quote[/b] (Beefy @ April 10 2006,13:10)]"The game itself was poor, and Southend's performance poorer, but all of that is irrelevant at this stage where points definitely mean prizes."

I've got to disagree slightly with this. I didn't think our performance was bad. It wasn't top notch by any means but just because we didn't win 4-0 doesn't mean we under-performed. We scored two, hit the post once, had an unbelieveable chance through Goater and created several other chances which Barrett, Maher and Eastwood missed.

This isn't a pop at you fbm, because I've read several people saying that we were poor, but it does worry me that we're setting too high a standard for the lads.

Agree with that Beefy - seen a lot lot worse.

My own feeling is that when the game finishes well, the recollection of the general performance is much more optimistic, especially when, as on Saturday, it all turns out ok.

I can't remember a game when so many short passes have been misplaced, the ball has not been controlled or shots missed the target by so far (both teams). As a performance, I think it stank. Yes, of course we've seen worse. We did however have moments of magic in amongst it all, and certain individuals kept the side together.

But in the space of 18 months we have gone from the bottom of league 2 to the top of league one, and are on the brink of stepping up again. The bar will be raised for certain; opposition strikers next season will not be anywhere near as benevolent as some have this year. Mistakes will be capitalised on, whereas this year we have very much "got away with it".

Now this may seem a daft comment, but for me some of the best football - and I mean flowing, error free football - came under Wignall. The Cheltenham game, the first half v Swindon in the league cup, the game v Bristol Rovers that we somehow lost 1-0 - those were games where we complety destroyed the opposition. The Bristol Rovers game encapsulated the Wignall era with all of the errors being made in front of goal, including 2 missed penalties. Nowadays we are much more clinical and we tend to score when we are on top, which takes the pressure off the defence.

So, if we have got the ability to step up yet another gear and maintain a presence in the Championship, there is no room for complacency, and less margin for error. The standards must be higher than they have been, otherwise come this time next year we will be dropping back into this league again.

When you compare Saturdays performance with the ones that we put in against Brentford and Notts Forest at home, it really was poor.

But who cares? Nerves were the cause, and as I've said, it all turned out ok in the end.

 

[canveyshrimper]

I agree that it was pretty much a nervous and tentative performance, and that is not a criticism. All teams wobble at some stage, even Chelsea if you believe the press.

I think the supporters were very tense on Saturday and this can translate itself onto the pitch.

 

[Interpol Shrimper]

Hunt looked partly at fault for the goal from the FLR footage on Sky.
Evertything else I've read (including the always excellent FBM report) tend to ignore this and say he was the MotM. Thoughts?

 

[canveyshrimper]

Quote[/b] (glasgowsufc @ April 10 2006,14:21)]Hunt looked partly at fault for the goal from the FLR footage on Sky.
Evertything else I've read (including the always excellent FBM report) tend to ignore this and say he was the MotM.  Thoughts?

I thought Hunt was excellent throughout, didn't miss a thing in the air, and sure footed and quick on the deck. I thought the fault with their goal was with a mix between Gower and Wilson, leaving Hunt wrong footed when the ball came to Williams.

 

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

The goal was totally Wilson's fault, he played a crap pass straight into touch, and then totally switched off from the resulting throw-in, allowing Parker time and space to deliver a quality cross, which was met by an equally good finish. Hunt MOM for me also

 

[C C Csiders]

Wilson 98% to blame, Gower 2%.

 

[Kris]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ April 10 2006,13:42)]Now this may seem a daft comment, but for me some of the best football - and I mean flowing, error free football - came under Wignall.  The Cheltenham game, the first half v Swindon in the league cup, the game v Bristol Rovers that we somehow lost 1-0 - those were games where we complety destroyed the opposition.  The Bristol Rovers game encapsulated the Wignall era with all of the errors being made in front of goal, including 2 missed penalties.  Nowadays we are much more clinical and we tend to score when we are on top, which takes the pressure off the defence.

The Bristol Rovers game was under Tilson, wasn't it?

 

[C C Csiders]

Quote[/b] (Kris @ April 10 2006,16:30)]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ April 10 2006,13:42)]Now this may seem a daft comment, but for me some of the best football - and I mean flowing, error free football - came under Wignall.  The Cheltenham game, the first half v Swindon in the league cup, the game v Bristol Rovers that we somehow lost 1-0 - those were games where we complety destroyed the opposition.  The Bristol Rovers game encapsulated the Wignall era with all of the errors being made in front of goal, including 2 missed penalties.  Nowadays we are much more clinical and we tend to score when we are on top, which takes the pressure off the defence.

The Bristol Rovers game was under Tilson, wasn't it?

Not the one fbm is talking about when Broughton and someone else (Bramble?) both missed penalties at home to Rovers. This was shortly before Wignall (thankfully) got sacked.

Can't agree though that we played some of our best football under Wignall.

 

[fbm]

Quote[/b] (C C Csiders @ April 10 2006,17:47)]

Quote[/b] (Kris @ April 10 2006,16:30)]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ April 10 2006,13:42)]Now this may seem a daft comment, but for me some of the best football - and I mean flowing, error free football - came under Wignall.  The Cheltenham game, the first half v Swindon in the league cup, the game v Bristol Rovers that we somehow lost 1-0 - those were games where we complety destroyed the opposition.  The Bristol Rovers game encapsulated the Wignall era with all of the errors being made in front of goal, including 2 missed penalties.  Nowadays we are much more clinical and we tend to score when we are on top, which takes the pressure off the defence.

The Bristol Rovers game was under Tilson, wasn't it?

Not the one fbm is talking about when Broughton and someone else (Bramble?) both missed penalties at home to Rovers. This was shortly before Wignall (thankfully) got sacked.

Can't agree though that we played some of our best football under Wignall.

Only approach play wise.

When the Wignall revolution started, we did take teams apart and created chances galore. We missed 10 out of 13 penalties in half a season and only Northampton I think had more goal attempts than us.

Its difficult to compare but I just remember some cracking stuff with no end product.

 

[Kris]

Quote[/b] (C C Csiders @ April 10 2006,17:47)]Not the one fbm is talking about when Broughton and someone else (Bramble?) both missed penalties at home to Rovers. This was shortly before Wignall (thankfully) got sacked.

I must apologise for being so pedantic but I've just checked Robin Michel's database and the 1-0 defeat to Bristol Rovers - when Gower and Broughton both missed penalties - was on December 20, 2003, so Tilson was in charge.

Wignall's last game in charge was a 1-0 defeat to Northampton on November 1st, when Jay Smith missed a penalty.