Sodje

[Interpol Shrimper]

Appeal withdrawn

 

[Andy_S]

The official site is just reporting that we didn't bother appealing.

 

[Hong Kong Blue]

Quote[/b] ]Appeal rejected

No it wasn't.

It was withdrawn before the hearing.

 

[SUFC_Al]

Southend didn't actually go through with the appeal

A claim by Southend United in relation to Efetobore Sodje's sending-off for serious foul play at Norwich City was withdrawn before the hearing. Sodje will therefore be suspended for three matches.

 

[Interpol Shrimper]

Sorry, blame Sky Sports News!!!!

 

[SUFC_Al]

Alright then...bloody Sky Sports News are rubbish

 

[Westcliff Shrimper]

So Efe will miss the Coventry, WBA and Barnsley (FA Cup) games... Lose all three and the season is effectively over bar the shouting...

 

[SUFC_Al]

Basically mate yeah!

Glad to have AB back otherwise we'd have to play Hunt there what with Prior injured as well but he's not really going to 100% match fit, is he.

 

[Hong Kong Blue]

Interesting that none of those players whose appeals were rejected had extra matches bans for frivolous appeals like Freddy did last season.

That is the only instance I'm aware of when a player had his ban extended. I'd really like to know whether there have been any other examples of the FA doing this. I tried e-mailing the FA and asking them but got fobbed off with a automated reply, I suspect someone with a bit more clout (Scriv?) should pose the question.

Other disciplinary questions I'd be interested in knowing the answers to include what percentage of appeals are successful. In particular I'd like to know how that varies division to division (lower league teams never seem to be successful, despite having to deal with the worse referees), and how the English FA's record compares with that of the Welsh FA, who have jurisdiction over the likes of Swansea and Cardiff.

I would have thought that in the interest of transparency this type of information should be made available to the paying fan.

 

[londonblue]

Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ Dec. 28 2006,14:35)]Interesting that none of those players whose appeals were rejected had extra matches bans for frivolous appeals like Freddy did last season.

That is the only instance I'm aware of when a player had his ban extended. I'd really like to know whether there have been any other examples of the FA doing this.

It happened at least one other time last season, can't remember the details though...

 

[BlueJ]

Interesting to see Konchesky's red card appeal was rejected also.

 

[Mick]

Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ Dec. 28 2006,14:35)]Interesting that none of those players whose appeals were rejected had extra matches bans for frivolous appeals like Freddy did last season.

That is the only instance I'm aware of when a player had his ban extended. I'd really like to know whether there have been any other examples of the FA doing this. I tried e-mailing the FA and asking them but got fobbed off with a automated reply, I suspect someone with a bit more clout (Scriv?) should pose the question.

Other disciplinary questions I'd be interested in knowing the answers to include what percentage of appeals are successful. In particular I'd like to know how that varies division to division (lower league teams never seem to be successful, despite having to deal with the worse referees), and how the English FA's record compares with that of the Welsh FA, who have jurisdiction over the likes of Swansea and Cardiff.

I would have thought that in the interest of transparency this type of information should be made available to the paying fan.

It's happened to one other I believe; a Stoke player at Southampton. As I recall that was a ludicrous appeal.

Complete transparency over these matters at www.thefa.com follow link to disciplinary latest.

General rule of thumb is that harsh red cards are not overturned, only crass errors.

Can't help you with the Welsh issues.

 

[Hooly]

Quote[/b] (Tilly's Prodical Son @ Dec. 28 2006,15:43)]Interesting to see Konchesky's red card appeal was rejected also.

Was that the one for the clean tackle that clearly took the ball, or have I missed another one?

 

[Beefy]

Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ Dec. 28 2006,14:35)]Interesting that none of those players whose appeals were rejected had extra matches bans for frivolous appeals like Freddy did last season.

That is the only instance I'm aware of when a player had his ban extended. I'd really like to know whether there have been any other examples of the FA doing this. I tried e-mailing the FA and asking them but got fobbed off with a automated reply, I suspect someone with a bit more clout (Scriv?) should pose the question.

Other disciplinary questions I'd be interested in knowing the answers to include what percentage of appeals are successful. In particular I'd like to know how that varies division to division (lower league teams never seem to be successful, despite having to deal with the worse referees), and how the English FA's record compares with that of the Welsh FA, who have jurisdiction over the likes of Swansea and Cardiff.

I would have thought that in the interest of transparency this type of information should be made available to the paying fan.

To be fair to the FA, I don't think they had much option with Eastwood. You can't have a manager coming out and admitting that his star striker was rightfully sent off and then appeal so he can play in a Cup match a few days later. Had we got away with that it would have set a horrid precident.

Its to be expected that more appeals in the Premiership are successful than in the lower leagues because there will be 50 cameras at a match at St. James Park Newcastle and only one at St. James Park Exeter.

Not that the FA can get it right when theres even 50 cameras there. Konchesky's appeal being dismissed was a complete joke decision.

 

[Hong Kong Blue]

Interesting

 

[Boreham Shrimper]

Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ Jan. 04 2007,18:13)]Interesting

Good move not to appeal then.

I think Sodje's appeal would have been deemed "frivolous" as well

 

[Uncle Leo]

Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ Jan. 04 2007,18:13)]Interesting

quite right too. The FA should have given him another game for it being such a daft challenge as well.

 

[Hong Kong Blue]

I don't know what the official grounds for appeal are, but that seems incredibly harsh to me. I would have thought arguing that the red card was wrong as the player was offside would be pretty good grounds for appeal (assuming he was actually offside).

Had the offside been given, would the player have been sent off?

As Mick said the FA aren't interested in the rights and wrongs of the issue and are just trying to back the refs as much as possible.

 

[Mick]

Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ Jan. 04 2007,18:38)]I don't know what the official grounds for appeal are, but that seems incredibly harsh to me. I would have thought arguing that the red card was wrong as the player was offside would be pretty good grounds for appeal (assuming he was actually offside).

Had the offside been given, would the player have been sent off?

As Mick said the FA aren't interested in the rights and wrongs of the issue and are just trying to back the refs as much as possible.

Even by the shocking standards of the FA Disciplinary Rubber Stamping (sorry, I mean Appeals) Panel this decision is perverse in the extreme.

The case has divided opinion amongst referees and therefore at worst was a reasonable appeal. It is complicated by the clumsy and contrived offside interpretation instruction but in any case there was a defender who had a reasonable chance of being first to the ball.

So a bewildering decision. Perhaps the panel was still ****ed after Xmas. FA .... F***ing Amateurs