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Rugby World Cup 2011

Perth Bambi

Pinocchio
Well not a great start by England at the moment, giving away too many penalties although I do feel the ref is being a bit one sided but same old England really, losing our discipline and getting punished accordingly.
 
Agreed. Slightly concerning about Wilkinson's kicking. Him and Flood bring very different things to the team. Flood is probably more mobile and a bit more dynamic on the pitch and with the ball in hand, but probably lacks the big tackles and the kicking both for placement and penalties. Wilkinson is certainly better in defence and generally his kicking but with as many missed penalties as today we are really going to struggle as with our forward pack we are generally high percentage on penalty scoring rather then tries.
 
Ben Youngs proved to be the difference for England when he came on, Wilkinson missing 5 penalties is unheard of. I thought the referee did slightly favour Argentina, they ought to have had a yellow card in the second half when I think Armitage was up ended, he'd watned them about their penalty count (as he did England) but didn't penalise them with a sin bin, as he did England.

Stating the obvious England will need to be much better once they reach the knock out rounds otherwise the Southern Hemisphere teams will make short work of them.
 
I may not know the finer points of the law as far as rugby is concerned but I do know a good match when I see one. Thank you to Wales and South Africa for a tremendous contest and for keeping me on the edge of my seat for eighty minutes. Wales could and should have won it but following Southend United I know a bit about 'coulds' and 'shoulds'. In the end it was a valiant defeat but sadly, they are often the hardest ones to swallow.
 
Unlucky Wales, great play against a rather boring SA, the welsh should be proud & should've won!
 
Ben Youngs proved to be the difference for England when he came on, Wilkinson missing 5 penalties is unheard of. I thought the referee did slightly favour Argentina, they ought to have had a yellow card in the second half when I think Armitage was up ended, he'd watned them about their penalty count (as he did England) but didn't penalise them with a sin bin, as he did England.

Stating the obvious England will need to be much better once they reach the knock out rounds otherwise the Southern Hemisphere teams will make short work of them.

Would agree with this post - but the problem is as I think Steve Rider said it is an England team in a world cup (football, cricket anyone) :winking:
 
Am really fancying England for another final here. Being notoriously slow in the early stages, even in 2003 performance wise, I think we'll win our group, beat a poor looking France in the QF and dispatch of an over performing Ireland; assuming they now win their group.

Hope the All Blacks meet us there, it'd be epic.
 
Am really fancying England for another final here. Being notoriously slow in the early stages, even in 2003 performance wise, I think we'll win our group, beat a poor looking France in the QF and dispatch of an over performing Ireland; assuming they now win their group.

Hope the All Blacks meet us there, it'd be epic.

If they were poor, what were we?. Schoolboy error strewn rugby in the first half, heads need to roll I'm afraid, including the retirement of a Mr. Wilkinson.
 
If they were poor, what were we?. Schoolboy error strewn rugby in the first half, heads need to roll I'm afraid, including the retirement of a Mr. Wilkinson.

You'll find that I wrote that before they were beaten by Tonga. We were poor, and they were deserved winners, what's your point? Anyone would think you're following me round the site trying to score points; risky business on a football forum of a team you don't watch.
 
Steady on, let's not all start falling out with each other over this England rugby team. They really ain't worth it.

I feel really sorry for Jonners - he has been badly, badly let down. Not sure how he can continue now, though.
 
You'll find that I wrote that before they were beaten by Tonga. We were poor, and they were deserved winners, what's your point? Anyone would think you're following me round the site trying to score points; risky business on a football forum of a team you don't watch.

Easy tiger. Just making a comment, put the claws away.
 
I've rather lost interest in this since England went out, and today I'd happily seen both teams lose. But out go the Welsh with a whnge about injustice, and the awful ITV commentary team and pundits telling us how brave they were. In truth like England they lost to a pretty poor French side.
 

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