Received in the post today re: Fossetts.

[OldBlueLady]

Surprised no-one else seems to have mentioned this, but perhaps you haven't seen your post yet. We ain't there yet guys!


Big brown envelope from the Communities and Local Government office re:

Town and Country Planning Act 1990 - Section 77
Applications by Southend United Football Club
Land part of Fossetts Farm and Southend United FC training ground, north of Eastern Avenue, Southend on Sea and land at Temple Farm, north of Smithers Chase, Sutton Road, Rochford
Application refs: SOS/06/01300/FUL and 06/00943/FUL
​

1. Following her letter of 5 March, the Secretary of State has received the following documents:​

• a Deed of Variation dated 21 April 2008 made by Southend on Sea Borough Council, South East Leisure UK Ltd, Tribeca Property Southend Company Ltd and Bank of Scotland plc​
• a letter dated 22 April 2008 from Dechert LLP which you have submitted along with the above Deed​
• an e-mail dated 21 April 2008 from Carl Dyer of Osborn Clark on behalf of Southend Estates Group plc​
• a letter dated 10 April 2008 from Gerald Eve on behalf of Warner Estate Holdings​
• a letter dated 20 March 2008 from Montagu Evans PPL on behalf of Delamere Estates Ltd and the National Grid UK Pension Scheme​
• a letter dated 8 March 2008 from Peter B C Bliss.​

2. In view of its particular legal function, we are only circulating copies of this Deed of Variation to those who are statutory parties to the inquiry. However, this document is available to anyone who wishes to see it. If the Deed of Variation is not enclosed with the letter and you would like a copy ..........

3. The Secretary of State will take account of all of the documents listed in paragraph 1 above in her consideration of the above applications. She invites further comment on the issues raised in all these documents within 21 days of the date of this letter (that is, by 19 May 2008). As soon as practicable thereafter, the Secretary of State will circulate the representations for comment, giving a further 21 days within which final comments may be made.

Variation of timetable

4. The Secretary of State considers that she will not be in a position to reach a decision on this application by 27 May 2008, as previously notified, because of the need to allow parties time to comment on the material listed in paragraph 1 above. Therefore, in the exercise of the power conferred on her by paragraph 6 (2) of......blah Act, she hereby gives notice that she has varied the timetable previously set and will now issue her decision on or before 7 July 2008.

And if anyone else has brought this up in the time it's taken me to type that lot, I'm going to be right mad!​

 

[Cricko]

Hmmmmm Very interesting Kay...I think this deserves a place in the main Forum for discussion.

 

[Cricko]

OBL ... added

That's what I thought, there are copies of all these letters referred to, but I'm no expert on legalese so not entirely confident of what they're saying, but I think some are making representation for reasons against the build.

The Dechert letter seems to highlight 3 issues outstanding relating to the Deed; the e-mail from Osborne Clark says that their client and the applicant (SUFC etc) are " a significant distance apart in terms of their respective assessment's of the value of the client's land interest in the Fossetts Farm site"; the letter from Gerald Eve seems to be to do with seeking an agreement that the retail area would not become operational until such time as the stadium is complete; the letter from Mr Bliss is handwritten and I can't decipher the guy's writing, but seems to be something to do with the crematorium and the one from Montagu Evans seems to be the same as the Gerald Eve one

 

[Pubey]

i assume that a lot of work can continue to go on behind the scenes and hopefully a month delay won't really affect the end date too much

 

[Matt the Shrimp]

the e-mail from Osborne Clark says that their client and the applicant (SUFC etc) are " a significant distance apart in terms of their respective assessment's of the value of the client's land interest in the Fossetts Farm site";

Or, in other words, Southend Estates Group plc (whoever they are) want a lot more cash for their bit of land than SUFC have currently offered.

:thump:

 

[OldBlueLady]

Where's Irate Ian when we need him to do a bit of digging?

 

[Smiffy]

Sussex by the sea is the perfect man to decipher this lot...

From what I gather, it means that there is questions regarding changes to the covenents in the original application..

 

[Shrimper2thecore]

O bloody hell!!

 

[Desert Shrimper]

Sussex by the sea is the perfect man to decipher this lot...

I think Murkey Mouse should have a crack for our Chinese readers.

 

[Cricko]

Ron's reply to my Email about this ...


John,

There are no surprises in the representations and nothing material or concern.

I appreciate that many will find these processes tedious-just be pleased that the world of football is relatively straightforward!

Regards.

Ron Martin

 

[Interpol Shrimper]

Ron's reply to my Email about this ...


John,

There are no surprises in the representations and nothing material or concern.

I appreciate that many will find these processes tedious-just be pleased that the world of football is relatively straightforward!

Regards.

Ron Martin

Good work John, RM was OK about this going into public domain?

 

[Smiffy]

Get a room...

 

[Cricko]

Good work John, RM was OK about this going into public domain?

Yes of course Rich as my mail to him mentioned it was brought up on the Zone and did he have a comment to make to ShrimperZoners.

My Original email to RM said....

Hi Ron .. the following has been posted on ShrimperZone.....which in all honesty comes as a bit of a shock to all of us .....can you enlighten us on any of these points raised....

Kind Regards .

John.

I attached Kay's letter.

 

[Cricko]

Get a room...

Shut up Fatty...:dim:

 

[DTS]

I think Murkey Mouse should have a crack for our Chinese readers.

If only I could rep this..... :clap:

 

[C C Csiders]

If only I could rep this..... :clap:

I did. Hilarious, understated post.

 

[Reading Shrimper]

Bloody hell, how many more delays/objections/extensions are there going to be?? So the final, final decision is delayed even further, till July, right?? :(

 

[canveyshrimper]

I did. Hilarious, understated post.

As did I. :D

 

[sussex by the sea]

If Ron says this is all ok then I suppose it must be but I thought at one time he said he expected work to start by the summer, from what I've read there is little of chance of that happening.

I don't think the principle of the approval of the development is in question but there appears to be an awful lot of legal work to be completed prior to the commencement of the development including, it seems, further legal agreements to be prepared by all the other landowners. This will take a few months I would think.

I also see that Warner Estate Holdings are asking for the £6 million payment for the Town Centre to be made upon the commencement of development. In other words, as soon as the first brick is laid of any part of the whole scheme, £6 million is immediately payable. I guess Ron has it covered but I would have thought it preferable for this payment to be made a later on.

It's only my perception but my guess is that the building of the stadium will already take place a few months later than originally anticipated.

 

[sussex by the sea]

So the final, final decision is delayed even further, till July, right?? :(

The letter says on or before 7 July and I would say a final decision is certainly unlikely before mid June at the earliest.