OS Aldershot goal pic - looks a clear foul to me......

[Angell Delight]

Assuming the pic on the OS gallery is from the goal (I couldn't go yesterday and also missed the Football League Show last night) I think we should indeed feel very hard done by again as from the pic it looks clear that Morris definitely has the ball in both hands when Spencer challenges him.

:'(

 

[easton8]

Assuming the pic on the OS gallery is from the goal (I couldn't go yesterday and also missed the Football League Show last night) I think we should indeed feel very hard done by again as from the pic it looks clear that Morris definitely has the ball in both hands when Spencer challenges him.

:'(

Yeah that pic is the goal...I watched it in slow-mo as well and Morris clearly has the ball in both hands when Spencer kicks it out.

 

[Ayrshire Blue]

I saw that picture and the highlights but i'm still not sure if he spills it or it's kicked out of his hands.

Either way it was very harsh on Morris as I thought he was our best player and his handling was very good in the conditions, apart from the goal of course.

 

[TravellingBlue]

I was adamant at the game that it was a foul. However, having now seen it on tv I've got to say it looks a perfectly good goal to me. Shame, because Morris' handling throughout the match was very good.

 

[Pubey]

I can't say I'm convinced it's a foul. Morris doesn't just need two hands on the ball, but needs to have it under control. He doesn't when looking at that pic, it looks like it's about to shoot out of his grip. I wasn't there, but the TV reply seems to suggest he spilt it.

 

[Mick]

Yeah that pic is the goal...I watched it in slow-mo as well and Morris clearly has the ball in both hands when Spencer kicks it out.

One of these refereeing myths, I'm afraid. Show me where in the Laws it says that if the goalkeeper has two hands on the ball it can't be played ?

From TV highlights, it didn't look like there was anything wrong with the goal.

 

[Its Only A Game]

One of these refereeing myths, I'm afraid. Show me where in the Laws it says that if the goalkeeper has two hands on the ball it can't be played ?

From TV highlights, it didn't look like there was anything wrong with the goal.

So are you saying its legal to kick the ball out of the keepers hands? If it is, why don't more people do it?

 

[JD]

One of these refereeing myths, I'm afraid. Show me where in the Laws it says that if the goalkeeper has two hands on the ball it can't be played ?

From TV highlights, it didn't look like there was anything wrong with the goal.

I agree, the ball never really looked under Morris's control. The photo is misleading.....

 

[EastStandBlue]

So are you saying its legal to kick the ball out of the keepers hands? If it is, why don't more people do it?

Mick's saying that the old addage of the 'keeper having two hands on it is false. The ball needs to be under control and, in all fairness, it isn't quite in Morris' grasp courtesy of the conditions.

 

[MattLloyd]

Was just so disappointed to see the ball go in that I was screaming for a foul. It wasn't, keeper was a bit unlucky, but having watched it ten times now it was a fair goal.

 

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

I still believe it's a foul, he quite clearly is jumping to the ball and has two strong hands coming down on the ball, he clearly kicks the ball out of his hands and you can't do that. 95% of the time a foul is given on the keeper, another **** decision that has cost us points.

 

[Thorpe Groyney]

Yet, on a tv viewing it looks much more like Morris letting the ball slip through his hands. We can look at slo-mo, pics, be at different angles in the ground, but bottom line is if it looks to the ref it was a keeper error and not a foul then that's the only view that matters.

 

[easton8]

Mick's saying that the old addage of the 'keeper having two hands on it is false. The ball needs to be under control and, in all fairness, it isn't quite in Morris' grasp courtesy of the conditions.

The keeper is in control of the ball if he has 2 hands on it that's the law....its not down to the ref to decide if the keeper has control or not the rule is black and white. He can even have one hand on the ball while the ball is in contact with any other surface....ground, body, goalpost.

Quote from paper today goalscorer Morgan admitted

Spence absolutely body slammed the keeper to set up the goal. But I'm not complaining. You play to the whistle.

More of a kick then a body slam but sort of hints that they knew it was a foul too.

 

[Firestorm]

The keeper is in control of the ball if he has 2 hands on it that's the law....its not down to the ref to decide if the keeper has control or not the rule is black and white. He can even have one hand on the ball while the ball is in contact with any other surface....ground, body, goalpost.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lawsofthegameen.pdf

Law 12 (P 114)

When a goalkeeper has gained possession of the ball with his hands, he cannot
be challenged by an opponent.

The Control of the ball element quoted above relates to the old six second rule.

In all honesty would you have said that Morris was in possession of the ball ?

The vast majority of decisions given for challenges on goal keepers are straight forward Fouls or for dangerous play , in this instance I doubt if the Referee would have been able to decide if an offence had taken place.

 

[EastStandBlue]

I think people need to watch the goal again, because the photo used on the OS is a bit misleading. He doesn't have possession of the ball as it isn't under control... He gets two hands on it, but it's more of a parry than a catch.

If we'd scored a similar goal and had it disallowed, we'd be fuming.

 

[BrettieAngell]

Just watched the highlights doesn't look like a foul to me, the ball is still in the air and he hasn't got control of it IMO.

 

[Harold Bishop Killer]

I personally think it was a fail but that is the way our luck has gone a bit in the first two league games. It cannot be changed now however I am a believer of what goes around, comes round. Onward and upwards. (I hope)

 

[The General]

Looks more offside than anything else!

 

[MrB]

I personally think it was a fail

 

[Mick]

So are you saying its legal to kick the ball out of the keepers hands? If it is, why don't more people do it?

Of course that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that simply by having two hands touching the ball, that doesn't mean an offence has necessarily been committed.