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No More Free tickets for Disabled Supporters

ldnfatso

Red Rep King!
Apparently some guy goes every season with DHSS disabled certificate in hand to the club in order to collect his free tickets for the forthcoming season for himself and his down syndrome suffering son.
Every year this has not been a problem but this year on the advise of the FA, the club has boshed this policy.

Reason: So not to discriminate against able bodied people.

Views please.
 
i agree with this to an extent.. i never knew they had complimentary places in the first place, and cannot believe the club has dished out free tickets all this time.. although it is important to make sure a wider and more diverse range of people are supporting southend, i agree that this is very unfair on the able bodied.. but on the other hand, if a disability is evident, then maybe they cannot work to afford tickets?

i also think Dave Scriven, was eaten alive on BBC Essex, he just seemed to repeat the same thing over and over..
 
I don't think too many of us "able bodies" would complain though would we? A disabled bloke taking his downs syndrome son to a game for free? Is anyone really so heartless as to call that discrimination...?
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Didn't think so. Time for the club to use some common sense.
 
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Quote[/b] (The Bloke In The Pram Shop @ July 10 2006,09:36)]I don't think too many of us "able bodies" would complain though would we? A disabled bloke taking his downs syndrome son to a game for free? Is anyone really so heartless as to call that discrimination...?
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Didn't think so. Time for the club to use some common sense.
This is a hard one to call i reckon as the club have acted on advice from the FA. However, i would assume that that is only advice and not an order. What would the consequences have been if the club had ignored the FA's advice i wonder?
 
wow.. all this high drama at roots hall.. who would have thought it at little old southend united..
 
I think its a bit harsh in a way - I mean if it brings joy into his life then it seems unfair to stop it. Also being a community club it dosent really seem to fit.

That said where does the club draw the line? As we must be getting close to a full house most weeks for next season I guess seating space is a premium.

I think a fair solution would be to give me two seats for a reduce rate of say £100 all in for the season. Its a token amount for the club but means that we get two more bums on seats.



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Quote[/b] (ldnfatso @ July 10 2006,09:07)]Apparently some guy goes every season with DHSS disabled certificate in hand to the club in order to collect his free tickets for the forthcoming season for himself and his down syndrome suffering son.
Every year this has not been a problem but this year on the advise of the FA, the club has boshed this policy.

Reason: So not to discriminate against able bodied people.

Views please.
the club are shooting themselves in the foot. i hope this is not the thin end of the wedge, now we are a championship club we stop caring about fans.

I do hope the plans for FF incoporate disabled access!!!
 
Im sure I read about this in the Echo weeks ago! Just after end of season I believe. If its the same person involved, a kind hearted supporter offered to pay for his ticket and the problem was resolved. Or is this another supporter? Certainly the circumstances are the same - i.e. regular supporter with Downs Syndrome son.
 
Why don't they offer disabled supporters the same deal as the family stand - reduced prices, but not free?
 
Especially if he has been going for a few years, ie. back when there were 3,500 people watching a load of sh!te.. Bit harsh to bin him and his son for this season in particular..
 
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Quote[/b] (CS J @ July 10 2006,09:12)]i agree with this to an extent.. i never knew they had complimentary places in the first place, and cannot believe the club has dished out free tickets all this time.. although it is important to make sure a wider and more diverse range of people are supporting southend, i agree that this is very unfair on the able bodied.. but on the other hand, if a disability is evident, then maybe they cannot work to afford tickets?

i also think Dave Scriven, was eaten alive on BBC Essex, he just seemed to repeat the same thing over and over..
agreed and agreed
 
This is an interesting point.

I have been going to watch Southend for 25 years, and I am registered blind, although at the moment, I am not completely blind.

Over this period, I have received either free, tickets, due to my disability. Southend have always given free tickets for the disabled, or blind, over the years, and at certain points, the 'carers' who accompanied them either went free, or paid a reduced price.

This season, the club is charging blind, or disabled supporters, a reduced rate. My season ticket cost just under half price of a normal season ticket.

There are a couple of points that have wrangled me here though

1. The person with the disability pays a reduced rate, and yet the carer this season still gains entrance to Roots Hall for free.... That to me is twisted logic!

2. I think the timing of it does leave a bit of a bad taste in the mouth, almost as if we are now a championship club, we want to cash in on as many things as we can. Im not saying that that is the case, but that is certainly the impression the club is giving off.

Personally, I have no trouble with paying a reduced rate, as opposed to free, as I have a well paid job and I can afford it. When I travel to away games, I always pay full price as I do not wish to sit in the home teams disabled area, and at present, although registered blind, my eyesight is enough to see most of the game.... Although sometiems ignorance is bliss!!

What I would say is that for a lot of people with disabilites, they are unable to work, and without wishing to sound patronising, Southend may well be one of there only pleasures in life, and if they are now unable to afford this, then I think something is wrong. I think the club need to address that issue, as at present, it is fine, having lots of new fans flocking through the turnstiles and bringing revenue to the club, but it hasnt always been like that, and it may not always be like this in the future, and so they need to look after the fans who have been with them through thick and thin as well.

Yes, the tickets are free, but peopl;e will still spend money on programmes and food no doubt, along with merchandise.

As I say, it is a difficult one to get right, and I have no problem on a personal level paying the reduced ticket prices (I also have no problem in admitting that either, I have a condition which means I dont get to see as much of the action as others, so dont feel guilty about paying less than others!!
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) as I can afford to do so, but others may not be in such a priviledged position, and it would be shame, after all the hard work over the last two years, to potentially lose fans along the way.
 
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Quote[/b] (Richard_Cadette @ July 10 2006,12:54)]This is an interesting point.

I have been going to watch Southend for 25 years, and I am registered blind, although at the moment, I am not completely blind.

Over this period, I have received either free, tickets, due to my disability.  Southend have always given free tickets for the disabled, or blind, over the years, and at certain points, the 'carers' who accompanied them either went free, or paid a reduced price.
You must know Ken, my Nan's old window cleaner. He used to give commentary to the blind people at RH

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Quote[/b] (Napster @ July 10 2006,12:56)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Richard_Cadette @ July 10 2006,12:54)]This is an interesting point.

I have been going to watch Southend for 25 years, and I am registered blind, although at the moment, I am not completely blind.

Over this period, I have received either free, tickets, due to my disability.  Southend have always given free tickets for the disabled, or blind, over the years, and at certain points, the 'carers' who accompanied them either went free, or paid a reduced price.
You must know Ken, my Nan's old window cleaner. He used to give commentary to the blind people at RH

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I do know Ken very well, or rather I did know Ken. He sadly passed away just before the end of the season. In my opinion, a true legend and a great loss.
 
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Quote[/b] (Richard_Cadette @ July 10 2006,12:58)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Napster @ July 10 2006,12:56)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Richard_Cadette @ July 10 2006,12:54)]This is an interesting point.

I have been going to watch Southend for 25 years, and I am registered blind, although at the moment, I am not completely blind.

Over this period, I have received either free, tickets, due to my disability.  Southend have always given free tickets for the disabled, or blind, over the years, and at certain points, the 'carers' who accompanied them either went free, or paid a reduced price.
You must know Ken, my Nan's old window cleaner. He used to give commentary to the blind people at RH

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I do know Ken very well, or rather I did know Ken.  He sadly passed away just before the end of the season.  In my opinion, a true legend and a great loss.
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I didn't know that. Awful news. He had more right than Ray Davy to be up on that last list of legends. He always had a smile on his face, old Ken. was he a former sergeant-major as well?

RIP Ken

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Quote[/b] (Richard_Cadette @ July 10 2006,12:54)]1. The person with the disability pays a reduced rate, and yet the carer this season still gains entrance to Roots Hall for free.... That to me is twisted logic!
I can actually see the logic in this. Leaving aside the argument as to whether or not disabled people should pay to get in; if a disabled person wants to go to a game and has to pay, it seems unfair to me to make the carer pay too. After all, the carer is only going to the match to look after the disabled person.
 
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Quote[/b] (Napster @ July 10 2006,13:55)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Richard_Cadette @ July 10 2006,12:58)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Napster @ July 10 2006,12:56)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Richard_Cadette @ July 10 2006,12:54)]This is an interesting point.

I have been going to watch Southend for 25 years, and I am registered blind, although at the moment, I am not completely blind.

Over this period, I have received either free, tickets, due to my disability.  Southend have always given free tickets for the disabled, or blind, over the years, and at certain points, the 'carers' who accompanied them either went free, or paid a reduced price.
You must know Ken, my Nan's old window cleaner. He used to give commentary to the blind people at RH

smile.gif
I do know Ken very well, or rather I did know Ken.  He sadly passed away just before the end of the season.  In my opinion, a true legend and a great loss.
sad.gif


I didn't know that. Awful news. He had more right than Ray Davy to be up on that last list of legends. He always had a smile on his face, old Ken. was he a former sergeant-major as well?

RIP Ken

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Who will they get to do the audio-description now...?

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Quote[/b] (Richard_Cadette @ July 10 2006,12:54)]I have a condition which means I dont get to see as much of the action as others, so dont feel guilty about paying less than others!!
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Does this mean that people with anorexia can pay half price because you could fit two of them on one seat?
 
From what I remember when this came up a few months ago, I thought that one of the problems was that the club were over-subscribed when it came to the allocated disabled seats. This new policy would seem to be a form of rationing to enable more disabled people the opportunity to go rather than milking them for a bit more cash.

Chelsea, Arsenal and a few other clubs have been in the same boat lately. Its not easy to change the disabled policy because its an area where its very easy to generate very bad PR.
 

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