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As the starter of the earlier thread I am disappointed that the moderators have seen fit to block further postings. I feel I have the right of reply so here goes....
thanks in particular to Terryinthewest and Andu for their constructive and reasoned contributions to the debate. Some of the other posters have also contributed positively. Its a shame that some of the posts on this subject have degenerated into a series of personal insults and back-biting. Some of the posters on here really should take a long hard look at their juvenile comments and maybe should engage brain before posting in future! (memo to moderators: maybe you should do just that - moderate! some of the insults flying in here could have been prevented I feel, and they hardly show this board or its posters in a favourable light) This board should be a place for reasoned debate, not playground name-calling.
Back to my original posting for those who can remember - I originally started by drawing attention to the sheer number of shirt changes the club has introduced over recent seasons and questioned if there was a need for all of them or were we the fans just been milked too much (even a cow will run out of milk if you try to milk it too often!). I compared the number of new shirts the club has issued with Man Utd and the uproar in the press that they causes when issuing yet another replica shirt. 4 new kits and 3 different sponsors for last season alone in our case is way too many IMO and we the fans are just being seen as mug punters by the club.
I asked for a Trust comment/perspective on this, as I feel its exactly the sort of issue where fan-power chanelled through the Trust is more likely to have influence. I dont know if any of the replies were from trust committee in a 'semi-official' capacity but I hope the comments have been noted and will be taken up with the club. I feel that some of the comments that inferred its nothing to do with the Trust or if you dont like it dont buy it were unhelpful, not constructive and prompted me to add my second more angry posting, and I'd be disappointed if they came from Trust committee members.
I accept the arguments about the club needing to make money from shirt sales but I feel they have crossed the line from commercial opportunity to ripping-off the fans and that something needs to be said. The rumoured change to stripes is just the latest example of a blatant disregard for the traditions of the club as the directors seemingly go all-out to squeeze every last penny out of the fans in the form of 'commercial opportunity'
My questions to the trust remain....
1.Are you aware of the strength of feeling on this issue?
2.If so are you prepared to raise it with the club?
3.I'm not suggesting a boycott but theres a limit to how much longer fans can be expected to shell-out. Some people I know paid out well over £150 last season on shirts only to find they will now be out of date. Can the Trust at least try to get the club to either offer a discount or at least get the kit supplier/sponsorship deal to run concurrently for 2 seasons?
For my part I wont be buying another new shirt this season. A 5th/6th new shirt inside a year is too much for me at £40 a time so I'm sticking with my much better value £25 England top. Thats money the club could of had if their pricing policy was more competetive!
Rant over.
thanks in particular to Terryinthewest and Andu for their constructive and reasoned contributions to the debate. Some of the other posters have also contributed positively. Its a shame that some of the posts on this subject have degenerated into a series of personal insults and back-biting. Some of the posters on here really should take a long hard look at their juvenile comments and maybe should engage brain before posting in future! (memo to moderators: maybe you should do just that - moderate! some of the insults flying in here could have been prevented I feel, and they hardly show this board or its posters in a favourable light) This board should be a place for reasoned debate, not playground name-calling.
Back to my original posting for those who can remember - I originally started by drawing attention to the sheer number of shirt changes the club has introduced over recent seasons and questioned if there was a need for all of them or were we the fans just been milked too much (even a cow will run out of milk if you try to milk it too often!). I compared the number of new shirts the club has issued with Man Utd and the uproar in the press that they causes when issuing yet another replica shirt. 4 new kits and 3 different sponsors for last season alone in our case is way too many IMO and we the fans are just being seen as mug punters by the club.
I asked for a Trust comment/perspective on this, as I feel its exactly the sort of issue where fan-power chanelled through the Trust is more likely to have influence. I dont know if any of the replies were from trust committee in a 'semi-official' capacity but I hope the comments have been noted and will be taken up with the club. I feel that some of the comments that inferred its nothing to do with the Trust or if you dont like it dont buy it were unhelpful, not constructive and prompted me to add my second more angry posting, and I'd be disappointed if they came from Trust committee members.
I accept the arguments about the club needing to make money from shirt sales but I feel they have crossed the line from commercial opportunity to ripping-off the fans and that something needs to be said. The rumoured change to stripes is just the latest example of a blatant disregard for the traditions of the club as the directors seemingly go all-out to squeeze every last penny out of the fans in the form of 'commercial opportunity'
My questions to the trust remain....
1.Are you aware of the strength of feeling on this issue?
2.If so are you prepared to raise it with the club?
3.I'm not suggesting a boycott but theres a limit to how much longer fans can be expected to shell-out. Some people I know paid out well over £150 last season on shirts only to find they will now be out of date. Can the Trust at least try to get the club to either offer a discount or at least get the kit supplier/sponsorship deal to run concurrently for 2 seasons?
For my part I wont be buying another new shirt this season. A 5th/6th new shirt inside a year is too much for me at £40 a time so I'm sticking with my much better value £25 England top. Thats money the club could of had if their pricing policy was more competetive!
Rant over.
