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John Terry retires from internationalfootball

Clearly doesn't fancy his chances this week, so has fallen on his sword. Personally I think the bloke is a **** and regret the fact that he's one of our better defenders. There's 2 years for one of the kids to come through though, so no worries there. I also don't like anyone who thinks they can 'retire' from international football - its not a lifestyle choice. Was it Tony Adams who said not long ago that he was still available for selection at the age of 45? That's the way it should be.
 
Clearly doesn't fancy his chances this week, so has fallen on his sword. Personally I think the bloke is a **** and regret the fact that he's one of our better defenders. There's 2 years for one of the kids to come through though, so no worries there. I also don't like anyone who thinks they can 'retire' from international football - its not a lifestyle choice. Was it Tony Adams who said not long ago that he was still available for selection at the age of 45? That's the way it should be.

Agreed,goodbye to bad rubbish,horrible individual.
 
Clearly doesn't fancy his chances this week, so has fallen on his sword. Personally I think the bloke is a **** and regret the fact that he's one of our better defenders. There's 2 years for one of the kids to come through though, so no worries there. I also don't like anyone who thinks they can 'retire' from international football - its not a lifestyle choice. Was it Tony Adams who said not long ago that he was still available for selection at the age of 45? That's the way it should be.

Well it is a lifestyle choice as it keeps them away from their families for long periods.

Can certainly understand players like Carragher retiring who was going away throughout the year and never playing.

Terry obviously was playing so different, but its time to replace him anyway.
 
As good as he was for England he's an odious man with a history of baggage, and yet still gives the impression of feeling hard done by, by the FA.

Good player in his prime, but showed last season that he's on the way down in ability anyway. Good riddance to a horrible human being.

We aren't short of centre backs either, admittedly none world class yet, but then neither was Terry when he begun his England career. Now's the perfect time to see if the likes of Shawcross, Smalling, Jones, Cresswell, Cahill or Lescott can step up with a continued run in the England side - only with regular international exposure can the next batch progress.

On the matter of retiring from international football, to most it's a disgrace, it's infuriating to those that will never get the opportunity to play for, let alone deliver a snub to your country, and for the likes of Brown, Foster, Robinson & Carragher etc to do it, players who obviously were never the best in their position and thus not worthy of a starting place anyway; it just smacked of throwing their toys out the pram; 'if I'm not starting then I'm not playing'. Terry, despite being one of my most hated players I can kind of understand, even if I don't agree with it. But how can you as a proud proffessional, as a fully fit former England player sit around at home, knowing your country is playing football and you could be out there representing them, supporting their cause. Adams quote above was right, or look at Beckham, ridiculed constantly throughout his career by the country he always stood by, effigy's made and hung, mocked because of his voice, dropped by McLaren for a PR stunt, yet he always stood by and was always proud to put the shirt back on. Even when McLaren turned tail when he realised the Euro's were drifting away, how many of Carragher, Terry, Brown would of sulked and told him to stuff it, not Becks, he was always proud to play for his country and would never let them down if they called on him. It's the way it should be.
 
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As good as he was for England he's an odious man with a history of baggage, and yet still gives the impression of feeling hard done by, by the FA.

Good player in his prime, but showed last season that he's on the way down in ability anyway. Good riddance to a horrible human being.

We aren't short of centre backs either, admittedly none world class yet, but then neither was Terry when he begun his England career. Now's the perfect time to see if the likes of Shawcross, Smalling, Jones, Cresswell, Cahill or Lescott can step up with a continued run in the England side - only with regular international exposure can the next batch progress.

On the matter of retiring from international football, to most it's a disgrace, it's infuriating to those that will never get the opportunity to play for, let alone deliver a snub to your country, and for the likes of Brown, Foster, Robinson & Carragher etc to do it, players who obviously where never the best in their position and thus not worthy of a starting place anyway; it just smacked of throwing their toys out the pram; 'if I'm not starting then I'm not playing'. Terry, despite being one of my most hated players I can kind of understand, even if I don't agree with it. But how can you as a proud proffessional, as a fully fit former England player sit around at home, knowing your country is playing football and you could be out there representing them, supporting their cause. Adams quote above was right, or look at Beckham, ridiculed constantly throughout his career by the country he always stood by, effigy's made and hung, mocked because of his voice, dropped by McLaren for a PR stunt, yet he always stood by and was always proud to put the shirt back on. Even when McLaren turned tail when he realised the Euro's were drifting away, how many of Carragher, Terry, Brown would of sulked and told him to stuff it, not Becks, he was always proud to play for his country and would never let them down if they called on him. It's the way it should be.

Jagielka?

Agree 100% on Becks, which is one of the many reasons he'll be our next manager.
 

What, by launching an Independent Regulatory Commission hearing into a serious allegation made against one player by another? Surely that's exactly what the FA should be doing?

Anyway, this is the most comprehensive article I've read on the subject - www.danielgeey.com/blog/?p=502. From reading that, it's my opinion that Terry's barrister might have had a word with him, warning him that he's likely to be hit with a charge that'd prohibit any England manager from selecting him again. The disparity with Chris Foy is particularly interesting because I personally couldn't believe he wasn't called as a witness at the Magistrates Court, but I'd imagine he'll be one of the first called in to provide evidence to the FA.
 
From reading that, it's my opinion that Terry's barrister might have had a word with him, warning him that he's likely to be hit with a charge that'd prohibit any England manager from selecting him again.

Indeed. Not disputing any of the issues that people might have with John Terry as a person (although the best part of our insight is from his media portrayal and I trust that as far as I can throw Murdoch) but I think arguments about him snubbing his country or not wanting to represent it are a long way wide of the mark. Pretty clear to me that, no matter what else is going on, he wants to carry on playing for England and is as passionate about it as you, me or any other player in England would be.
 
Trying very hard to muster up 11 England players in the last 5 years with John Terry's passion for his home nation.Apart from Gary Neville.....
 
Trying very hard to muster up 11 England players in the last 5 years with John Terry's passion for his home nation.Apart from Gary Neville.....

Indeed, along with Frank Lampard, and for me, that's why he's going to be a big loss from the international side.
 
Trying very hard to muster up 11 England players in the last 5 years with John Terry's passion for his home nation.Apart from Gary Neville.....

I think a lot of people see last ditch tackles and agression and mistake it for passion. Generic terms like 'throwing your body on the line' don't help either. Neville never used to throw his body on the line for last ditch tackles, he seldom needed to, but no one doubts his passion.

Passion isn't always outward either, we can't all be like Stuart Pearce and wear our hearts on our sleeves. A player can just as easily be beaming with pride on the inside, and it could go unnoticed because the player next to you is singing the national anthem at full tilt.

It's very hard to know a players level of pride at playing for his country, unless he openly rejects the opportunity to do so.
 
Yes but they should have taken this action a long time ago( before it went to court).

How's that an example of "having it in for him"? Surely it's favourable that the case is heard by the Magistrates Court before it is heard by the governing body? And besides, if anybody's to blame for the delay in this case reaching its conclusion it's Chelsea, with Ron Gourlay successfully requesting that the case be pushed back until after last season's conclusion.
 
How's that an example of "having it in for him"? Surely it's favourable that the case is heard by the Magistrates Court before it is heard by the governing body? And besides, if anybody's to blame for the delay in this case reaching its conclusion it's Chelsea, with Ron Gourlay successfully requesting that the case be pushed back until after last season's conclusion.

The FA have clearly been dragging their feet on this one and were obviously hoping that the courts would do their job for them.Football's governing body is supposed to set the pace where the kick racism out of football campaign is concerned,not merely follow it.
 
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In court, Terry had possibly the best Lawyer in Britain representing him, you know the type of Lawyer that can get O.J.Simpson and Michael Jackson off their charges.
This time he is facing the F.A. more or less on his own, but with the very best advice. He has fallen before he is pushed, that's all. He knows he will be found guilty in this one, and now can turn round and say 'See, I told you they were out to get me.'
 

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