Hooligan

[Pennyfather]

Just watched the DVD. This is a factual based documentary on the ICF, set in 1985. Facinating stuff. Just shows how far football has come since those days. Yes it still goes on but nothing like it was.

I was at the game when we beat Wolves 1-0, Matin Ling (shame he went to the dark side). Came out of the ground and they charged Vic Ave, Must have been 16 at the time. Scared the bits out of me. The police were useless as we were running away they tried to stop us - I thought they should stop them, but hey!

Anyway, the point of this is that I think football has beaten it to a large extent, but is that beacuse social atitudes have changed or is it because the "authorities" have done their job?

I enjoy my football like the rest of you and now as a 30 something like to take my kids. I think back to the days, and to be honest I never saw much of it, but it is better now.

 

[OldBlueLady]

I was working at a bank in Southend High St when we played Wolves then, and I remember the behaviour of their supporters before the game.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Number of things I reckon. Police,the clubs and the FA stamping it out and making football more family friendly. If those dark days were around now I'd think a lot more clubs would go under due to diminished attendances.

 

[Irish_Shrimper]

Just watched the DVD. This is a factual based documentary on the ICF, set in 1985. Facinating stuff. Just shows how far football has come since those days. Yes it still goes on but nothing like it was.

I was at the game when we beat Wolves 1-0, Matin Ling (shame he went to the dark side). Came out of the ground and they charged Vic Ave, Must have been 16 at the time. Scared the bits out of me. The police were useless as we were running away they tried to stop us - I thought they should stop them, but hey!

Anyway, the point of this is that I think football has beaten it to a large extent, but is that beacuse social atitudes have changed or is it because the "authorities" have done their job?

I enjoy my football like the rest of you and now as a 30 something like to take my kids. I think back to the days, and to be honest I never saw much of it, but it is better now.

Bit of both I would say. My PhD thesis is on this topic, focusing on the 1990's after the Lord Taylor report from Hillsborough. Very interesting stuff.

 

[Napster]

Just watched the DVD. This is a factual based documentary on the ICF, set in 1985. Facinating stuff. Just shows how far football has come since those days. Yes it still goes on but nothing like it was.

I was at the game when we beat Wolves 1-0, Matin Ling (shame he went to the dark side). Came out of the ground and they charged Vic Ave, Must have been 16 at the time. Scared the bits out of me. The police were useless as we were running away they tried to stop us - I thought they should stop them, but hey!

Anyway, the point of this is that I think football has beaten it to a large extent, but is that beacuse social atitudes have changed or is it because the "authorities" have done their job?

I enjoy my football like the rest of you and now as a 30 something like to take my kids. I think back to the days, and to be honest I never saw much of it, but it is better now.

I've seen that as well - a good documentary. I think it's a number of factors really, including social mobility, increased police intelligence and I think all-seater stadia have played their part.

 

[Thorpe Groyney]

Not that much of it was factual, mind, as it was taken by word of mouth from the participants shown. It may surprise you to know that one of the Shrimpers support, who goes home and away now with his children, 'ran' with the ICF in the 80's. He confirmed to me years ago that the so-called 'battle' outside Old Trafford was an idea by the documentary's makers and engineered purely to make, in film parlance, 'good telly'. They also passed a few bob their way in order to fake this part.

Heysel, St. Andrews (forgotten about by the media but not by those whose friend or relative died that day), Bradford, Hillsborough and England's success in the 1990 World Cup were seminal points in hooliganism waning. CCTV took the confrontations away from the ground but the realisation that football wasn't a matter of life and death, after all, and the attraction of the game to the chattering classes post-Italia '90 diluted the problem much much further.

 

[Mad Cyril]

Anyway, the point of this is that I think football has beaten it to a large extent, but is that beacuse social atitudes have changed or is it because the "authorities" have done their job?

I think Danny Dyer has put a lot of people off hooliganism simply because he is such a top drawer ***t.