does university make you into a lefty

[Hotman]

Just a thought after seeing Napsters post on the student thread - does attending university make you:

a) explore left wing thoughts and develop this mentality, and
b) make you think you are better than others because you are lefty?

thank **** I left school at 16 !!

 

[EastStandBlue]

I wouldn't say so...


I've just finished and am still nowhere near the left side of the force. Can't say too many people I know here are either.

 

[Rob Noxious]

I know it's going back a lo-ooooooo-ng time, but I was a lefty before I went to a...Poly, that's how long ago it is! An armchair lefty, with a big cushion underneath mind...

 

[Hotman]

Polytechnics don't count !!

Seriously though, every time I think of students I get an image of Neil from The Young Ones eating Lentils

 

[Rob Noxious]

Polytechnics don't count !!

Seriously though, every time I think of students I get an image of Neil from The Young Ones eating Lentils

They ought to do an update of this called "The Old Ones" where Neil can't eat lentils anymore 'cos it aggravates his gout...:)

 

[DTS]

Defo.

All the people I know that went to Uni are fairly left. In comparrison most working people I know lean more to the right.

The lefties of this world for my mine are always sad old students that love everyone and everything and as they have often had it easy in life they dont really appreciate that life is a struggle at times.

I think all that comes from being at Uni and ****ing up Daddys/Tax Payers money and then having to pay it back at the rate of .26p per year.

 

[Rob Noxious]

Beware of generalisations, Dave...this lefty may be a saddo, but doesn't love everyone! Also, despite travelling hundreds of miles to watch the mighty Shrimpers whenever I can, I know the value of money too and don't take it for granted.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Well I never went to Uni until I was 34 and started a BR apprenticeship at 17 so.......could it be the fact that everyone is different and you shouldn't make sweeping generalisations, or is that a little bit too Trotskyite?

 

[number11]

The uni I went to (Sussex) was full of leftie wasters who would protest about the opening of a packet of crisps. Thankfully it probably drove me more the other way as I looked about these namby pamby 'socialists' with contempt. No doubt once they got out of uni and earnt their own money in the city and got on with real life a lot of their views have changed.

 

[MK Shrimper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjriYu10_iQ

 

[Rob Noxious]

The uni I went to (Sussex) was full of leftie wasters who would protest about the opening of a packet of crisps. Thankfully it probably drove me more the other way as I looked about these namby pamby 'socialists' with contempt. No doubt once they got out of uni and earnt their own money in the city and got on with real life a lot of their views have changed.

So, you may have been influenced by the personal issues with these 'wasters' prejudicing your appraisal of the political? If they were serious lefties rather than posers, then I doubt if they would have "earnt their own money in the city."

 

[steveo]

I think it all depends on your family/background. But im very pleased that neither of my boys wanted to go to uni.

 

[number11]

So, you may have been influenced by the personal issues with these 'wasters' prejudicing your appraisal of the political? If they were serious lefties rather than posers, then I doubt if they would have "earnt their own money in the city."

Well yes, surely its ones own experiences and readings that will influence someones appraisal of the political? It's unlikely we are born with our political prejudices!

That's the thing about a lot of these wooly lefties, its all very well bleating about equal treatment etc, but when the opportunities to self betterment presents itself, they dont pass up on the opportunity.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Well yes, surely its ones own experiences and readings that will influence someones appraisal of the political? It's unlikely we are born with our political prejudices!

That's the thing about a lot of these wooly lefties, its all very well bleating about equal treatment etc, but when the opportunities to self betterment presents itself, they dont pass up on the opportunity.

Lovely bit of generalisation there. And what do you mean by "self betterment?" The collection of "things" and "stuff"?

 

[Rob Noxious]

Well yes, surely its ones own experiences and readings that will influence someones appraisal of the political? It's unlikely we are born with our political prejudices!

That's the thing about a lot of these wooly lefties, its all very well bleating about equal treatment etc, but when the opportunities to self betterment presents itself, they dont pass up on the opportunity.

We are not born with our political perspectives but they are shaped from our background, experiences and increased awareness when we try to reconcile that experience with what is going on in the wider world. I suggested that your personal antipathy to the Sussex Uni 'lefties' was a factor in your "appraisal of the political" from what you had previously written.

Your use of the epithets "bleating" and "wooly" betrays your ongoing personalised antipathy to 'lefties' per se. I can only speak from my personal experience about 'self-betterment' and am happy to share that I remain gloriously under-achieving as ever! :)

 

[Swiss Tony]

Here we go again on the political to and throw baiting,guys lets just love each other.

 

[Hotman]

What i find ironic is that most leftys are champagne socialists, from wealthy (probably right wing hard working) families. Most haven't seen how the social benefits are often ****ed up the wall by people who don't deserve to breathe, let alone be paid for living. If you want proof live in a crappy estate for a while like I did when younger, or instead do a survey of how many unemployed smoke / drink whilst keeping their kids in poverty.

 

[number11]

We are not born with our political perspectives but they are shaped from our background, experiences and increased awareness when we try to reconcile that experience with what is going on in the wider world. I suggested that your personal antipathy to the Sussex Uni 'lefties' was a factor in your "appraisal of the political" from what you had previously written.

Your use of the epithets "bleating" and "wooly" betrays your ongoing personalised antipathy to 'lefties' per se. I can only speak from my personal experience about 'self-betterment' and am happy to share that I remain gloriously under-achieving as ever! :)

Exactly, our political views are shaped by experiences in life, people we meet and background. That shaped my currently held view of 'socialism'. Not sure there should be too much controversial about that. I was answering Dave's question, I went to a very left wing uni but my experience caused me to go the other way.

 

[Rob Noxious]

Here we go again on the political to and throw baiting,guys lets just love each other.

Despite me saying that I don't love everyone earlier, I love everyone on the Zone...:)

 

[returningshrimper]

My uni was full of lefties, so would have to say yes