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DISGRACEFUL

Benfleet Blue

First XI
Players not up for it, Management lacking ideas, farcicle substitutions (Replacing 3 of our only players to show any fight and why JCR was taken off instead of Gower I'll never know, and even a poor Freddie is more likely to score than Harrold).
How can anyone slate managers such as Bruce who yell instructions to players all the time and show some passion, when Tilly and Brush continue to lean on the dugout appearing not to have a clue, I'll never know.
We're down, lets face it, but I really feel that it's the management who need help, they've totally lost the plot.
Our tactics are atrocious, playing long high balls to strikers who will never win balls in the air, goalkicks aimed high to JCR are unbelievable, our player purchases simply weren't good enough, none really better than those that were released even though we spent over £600,000.
I think we'd struggle in league 1 with the way we're playing.
 
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Quote[/b] (jcrcr @ Dec. 23 2006,17:49)]Lets all look on the bright side of life
dododododododododo
We just lost 4 0 at home, we are bottom of the league, what is there to be jolly about at the moment.
 
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Quote[/b] (jcrcr @ Dec. 23 2006,17:49)]Lets all look on the bright side of life
dododododododododo
No, how about we all look on the realistic side of life.

Playing like that and we don't have a hope in hells chance of surviving this season, simple as that.
 
Christmas, MCcormack, We're in the championship, We got the to carling cup quarter finals, we beat Man U, the football league is upside down so we're going up
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Quote[/b] (chalkwell blue @ Dec. 23 2006,17:52)]
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Quote[/b] (jcrcr @ Dec. 23 2006,17:49)]Lets all look on the bright side of life
dododododododododo
We just lost 4 0 at home, we are bottom of the league, what is there to be jolly about at the moment.
christmas.....

it's only a team of 11 random players that will constantly change from time to time i am gonna start playing golf its more fun that way, and bet people i cant hit it straight. i'll win money and have fun trying to hit a ball as hard as possible.

ho ho ho merry christmas.

p.s. i hope tilly comes out and slates the players, not his style, but it needs to be said, they need to pull their fingers out.
 
Whats disgraceful is when Southend were 2nd from bottom in the Football league and looking like they were going out of the League altogether like they were 3 years ago.

Its never pleasant to lose but we will just have to accept we were beaten by a far better side on their way back to the premiership.
 
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Quote[/b] (Benfleet Blue @ Dec. 23 2006,17:46)]Players not up for it, Management lacking ideas, farcicle substitutions (Replacing 3 of our only players to show any fight and why JCR was taken off instead of Gower I'll never know, and even a poor Freddie is more likely to score than Harrold).
How can anyone slate managers such as Bruce who yell instructions to players all the time and show some passion, when Tilly and Brush continue to lean on the dugout appearing not to have a clue, I'll never know.
We're down, lets face it, but I really feel that it's the management who need help, they've totally lost the plot.
Our tactics are atrocious, playing long high balls to strikers who will never win balls in the air, goalkicks aimed high to JCR are unbelievable, our player purchases simply weren't good enough, none really better than those that were released even though we spent over £600,000.
I think we'd struggle in league 1 with the way we're playing.
Totally agree!

We looked so woeful today with no fight or passion.

It shows bad management when the team can turn it on in the league cup, but in the league they just dont want to know!

What will change next season in league one? I predict another season of struggle.

Yes i may be again slated for this opinion, but Tilly and Brush have done all they can at Roots Hall. We need new ideas, new tactics, and another manager with eyes for different players/transfer targets.

To be honest The Brum didn't look all that today, but the difference was they still played below 100% and got a good result.

It was another travesty that JCR got subbed again today, i thought he was doing well.

After the saints game i thought maybe we could survive, just maybe. But after today, my hopes have come crashing back to earth!

This is too much of an uphill struggle, survival will be very hard now and an absolute miracle is needed.

Tonight i'm very pi$$ed off
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Quote[/b] (Csboy @ Dec. 23 2006,18:30)]Whats disgraceful is when Southend were 2nd from bottom in the Football league and looking like they were going out of the League altogether like they were 3 years ago.

Its never pleasant to lose but we will just have to accept we were beaten by a far better side on their way back to the premiership.
Oh jeez enough already about how we were 3 years ago blah, blah, blah.

I wont accept a performance like todays and if anyone associated with the club does, then they may as well shake hands now and not waste any more of our time this season, because for me, they just went through the motions today, and even then, not very well.

Yes, Birmingham are a good side, but had we of played against a performance like ours today, then we would have looked like we were going to return to the Premiership.

That was not acceptable, especially when they had worked so hard and done so well against Southampton and played at least half decent at Luton.

The Tottenham game took care of itself, it was a one off cup tie, today was far more important and they let everybody down.
 
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Quote[/b] (Csboy @ Dec. 23 2006,18:30)]Whats disgraceful is when Southend were 2nd from bottom in the Football league and looking like they were going out of the League altogether like they were 3 years ago.

Its never pleasant to lose but we will just have to accept we were beaten by a far better side on their way back to the premiership.
Well said. Unfortunately some people expect us to win every single game no matter who we play.
 
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Quote[/b] (Richard_Cadette @ Dec. 23 2006,18:34)]
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Quote[/b] (Csboy @ Dec. 23 2006,18:30)]Whats disgraceful is when Southend were 2nd from bottom in the Football league and looking like they were going out of the League altogether like they were 3 years ago.

Its never pleasant to lose but we will just have to accept we were beaten by a far better side on their way back to the premiership.
Oh jeez enough already about how we were 3 years ago blah, blah, blah.

I wont accept a performance like todays and if anyone associated with the club does, then they may as well shake hands now and not waste any more of our time this season, because for me, they just went through the motions today, and even then, not very well.

Yes, Birmingham are a good side, but had we of played against a performance like ours today, then we would have looked like we were going to return to the Premiership.

That was not acceptable, especially when they had worked so hard and done so well against Southampton and played at least half decent at Luton.

The Tottenham game took care of itself, it was a one off cup tie, today was far more important and they let everybody down.
here here... today was terrible, we couldn't do the simple things today


ratings

flavs - 6
hammell - 6
sodje - 5
clarke (our MOTM) - 7.5
hunt - 6
maher - 5
macca - 7
gower - 5.5
jcr - 6 (loses a mark because he didn't track his runner for the 2nd goal)
bradders - 5.5
freddy - 6

subs:
hooper - 5.5 (sorry lads but he isn't the new freddy)
harrold - 6
francis - 6
 
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Quote[/b] (Mighty Shrimper @ Dec. 23 2006,18:37)]Well said. Unfortunately some people expect us to win every single game no matter who we play.
I agree but we haven't exactly been winning many games recently have we?!
 
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Quote[/b] (Benfleet Blue @ Dec. 23 2006,17:46)]and even a poor Freddie is more likely to score than Harrold).
Freddy was awful today.

His touch and passing were dreadful and he wasnt contributing at all, Harrold actually looked far more dangerous when he came on.
 
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Quote[/b] (Benfleet Blue @ Dec. 23 2006,17:46)]Players not up for it, Management lacking ideas, farcicle substitutions (Replacing 3 of our only players to show any fight and why JCR was taken off instead of Gower I'll never know, and even a poor Freddie is more likely to score than Harrold).
How can anyone slate managers such as Bruce who yell instructions to players all the time and show some passion, when Tilly and Brush continue to lean on the dugout appearing not to have a clue, I'll never know.
We're down, lets face it, but I really feel that it's the management who need help, they've totally lost the plot.
Our tactics are atrocious, playing long high balls to strikers who will never win balls in the air, goalkicks aimed high to JCR are unbelievable, our player purchases simply weren't good enough, none really better than those that were released even though we spent over £600,000.
I think we'd struggle in league 1 with the way we're playing.
Yaawwn.

Tilly replaced our only 3 players to show any fight? I agree JCR shouldn't have been taken off but Freddy showing fight are you joking. He was lazy and ineffective again and it looked like McCormack got taken off with a slight injury. After the substitution we improved slightly. Harold had a positive impact and Hooper did more than Freddy. People have a go at Tilly for being too late with subs, he makes a triple sub with half an hour to go and people still moan. Can't win. We lost to the best team in this division, no need for a huge inquest.

I do agree with you though about long balls to JCR. That annoyed me today - he's the shortest player on the pitch!  
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Quote[/b] (shrimpboy @ Dec. 23 2006,22:01)]
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Quote[/b] (Benfleet Blue @ Dec. 23 2006,17:46)]Players not up for it, Management lacking ideas, farcicle substitutions (Replacing 3 of our only players to show any fight and why JCR was taken off instead of Gower I'll never know, and even a poor Freddie is more likely to score than Harrold).
How can anyone slate managers such as Bruce who yell instructions to players all the time and show some passion, when Tilly and Brush continue to lean on the dugout appearing not to have a clue, I'll never know.
We're down, lets face it, but I really feel that it's the management who need help, they've totally lost the plot.
Our tactics are atrocious, playing long high balls to strikers who will never win balls in the air, goalkicks aimed high to JCR are unbelievable, our player purchases simply weren't good enough, none really better than those that were released even though we spent over £600,000.
I think we'd struggle in league 1 with the way we're playing.
Yaawwn.

Tilly replaced our only 3 players to show any fight? I agree JCR shouldn't have been taken off but Freddy showing fight are you joking. He was lazy and ineffective again and it looked like McCormack got taken off with a slight injury. After the substitution we improved slightly. Harold had a positive impact and Hooper did more than Freddy. People have a go at Tilly for being too late with subs, he makes a triple sub with half an hour to go and people still moan. Can't win. We lost to the best team in this division, no need for a huge inquest.

I do agree with you though about long balls to JCR. That annoyed me today - he's the shortest player on the pitch!  
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Agree with the point about those damn long balls and directed goal kicks toward JCR....this has however been happening for the lion share of the season!
 
Or perhaps the players were brought of for a rest seeing as the game was lost and we have another important game coming up on Tuesday. Well perhaps that's correct in 2 of the 3 places. Eastwood should be dropped for producing probably the most spineless, couldn't give a f*ck, display of his career with us.

The first time in about 5 seasons I've actually left a game long before the end (straight after the 4th goal).
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Asbo, daytripping gloryhunter me
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Quote[/b] (shrimpboy @ Dec. 23 2006,22:01)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Benfleet Blue @ Dec. 23 2006,17:46)]Players not up for it, Management lacking ideas, farcicle substitutions (Replacing 3 of our only players to show any fight and why JCR was taken off instead of Gower I'll never know, and even a poor Freddie is more likely to score than Harrold).
How can anyone slate managers such as Bruce who yell instructions to players all the time and show some passion, when Tilly and Brush continue to lean on the dugout appearing not to have a clue, I'll never know.
We're down, lets face it, but I really feel that it's the management who need help, they've totally lost the plot.
Our tactics are atrocious, playing long high balls to strikers who will never win balls in the air, goalkicks aimed high to JCR are unbelievable, our player purchases simply weren't good enough, none really better than those that were released even though we spent over £600,000.
I think we'd struggle in league 1 with the way we're playing.
Yaawwn.

Tilly replaced our only 3 players to show any fight? I agree JCR shouldn't have been taken off but Freddy showing fight are you joking. He was lazy and ineffective again and it looked like McCormack got taken off with a slight injury. After the substitution we improved slightly. Harold had a positive impact and Hooper did more than Freddy. People have a go at Tilly for being too late with subs, he makes a triple sub with half an hour to go and people still moan. Can't win. We lost to the best team in this division, no need for a huge inquest.

I do agree with you though about long balls to JCR. That annoyed me today - he's the shortest player on the pitch!  
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I think Tilson did the right thing today. We were loosing 3 nil and were not looking likely to score and we needed something. As soon as the 3 subs came on we looked to have a bit more energy about us. I also think it was a wise move given that we already looked to have lost the game plus it was probably good to rest some of the players/not risk injury with the busy xmas period coming up aswell as the tiring spurs match from midweek.
I think Tilly got the subs spot on today.
 
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Quote[/b] (M25 Shrimpers @ Dec. 23 2006,23:19)]Agree with the point about those damn long balls and directed goal kicks toward JCR....this has however been happening for the lion share of the season!
Amen to that. JCR's was being marked by a guy that was at least 6 - 8" taller than him, unless he's a springbok he is never going to win a header. So why persist to play that way.

For me we lacked anything up front, we all know that Freddie can weave a bit of magic and turn a game but I think his head is already in the Premiership. He was woeful today and I for one was glad that Tilly brought him off. He needs to do a little bit of thinking, 1 goal against Man U does not make a Prem striker, scouts from these clubs are not going to watch him in one game and then write a cheque for a few Million quid. He was not really interested in the game, by his own standards his passing, movement and touch was poor. If I were a Prem Club I would not want his services based his current form.

I know that some will say that if he got the service then he would score more goals, but how many times do JCR and Gower get into a position to put a ball into the box and he is arriving in the box to get on the end of it? This afternoon when Gower and JCR were looking to get a ball in he was 20 yards away and not moving towards the box at all. This means that they then have to waste time waiting for someone to actually arrive, then we lose the ball and we're under attack.

We also don't seem to be able to break quickly, Birmingham turned on a bit of pace and stretched us countless times. Contrast that to our play today and we were happy to wait until all the opposition were back in the rightful positions before starting to build anything. We then have an organised defense to try and break through rather than a stretched defense trying to gain some shape to stop us scoring.

I was another person to walk out pre the final whistle, a first for me, I just could stand to see a fifth.
 

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