Cost of Living crisis

[Tangled up in Blue]

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jan/30/british-wage-slump-post-financial-crisis-uk

It's official.There is a cost of living crisis.

The IFS says so.

We've had a "pay squeeze" for the last six years.

 

[Uncle Leo]

I have found an ideal response to this 'crisis' is to work hard, get a couple of promotions, get made redundant, then start a new job three weeks later. Price of petrol falling rapidly helps too.

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

of course there's been a reduction in pay. We were in recession. The Tory policies were and are more effective than socialist France for example or basket case Spain for that matter. "Cost of living crisis" is a Labour slogan. Slogans alone won't win you an election.

 

[callan]

Biggest cost rise I think I have seen is in our winter energy bills, so I put one of them log burners in.
Bills are now pretty much non existent, the house is warm and the wife is henching up nicely chopping wood.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

of course there's been a reduction in pay. We were in recession. The Tory policies were and are more effective than socialist France for example or basket case Spain for that matter. "Cost of living crisis" is a Labour slogan. Slogans alone won't win you an election.

So there is a cost of living crisis but you just don't want to give it a name.

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

So there is a cost of living crisis but you just don't want to give it a name.

Read my post without your slant and you would understand what I'm saying. It is a slogan. And a pretty meaningless one IMHO.
Here's a fact for you. Yes manufacturing could be stronger in this country but the Nissan plant produces more cars than Italy. All of course by your arguments all the jobs are minimum wage, as are all the jobs created in Jaguar and Landrover.
Labour have lost all the early election skirmishes and the Tories haven't even started yet. Not looking good for Labour no matter how many times you read the Guardian. A small lead or trailing by 1% depending on which poll you read at this stage is NOT good news.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Read my post without your slant and you would understand what I'm saying. It is a slogan. And a pretty meaningless one IMHO.

I wonder if you would agree that "long-term economic plan" is just a slogan too?

Funny that we hear it ad nauseam from the Tory benches at PMQ's every week.

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

well at least they have one. What's Labour's plan? No really what is their plan? Have you a clue? Cos I haven't. Repeat Hollande's policies? Be like Spain? They haven't got policies. They realise the Tories have outflanked them. It's all rather pathetic TBH at this stage of the election campaign

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Slogans, spin, headlines, sound-bites; the one line rhetoric is what news is these days.
The Tories have got lucky with the fuel price drop, supermarket price wars and the unheralded influx of cheap labour which has blunted the unions.
Labour has got lucky that the Tories are so obviously self seeking in lining their own pockets with private companies in defence, policing, health care (all in it together!).

Watching/listening to PMQ every week is nauseous AND these Politicos are destroying the democratic will of the UK by their words and action so much so that non voters and apathy are the real majority.

All slightly off topic stuff but having had to pay almost £175 for a tyre (had to get 4!) I do feel there IS a cost crisis that is enhanced by the freeze in earnings (for some).

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

well at least they have one. What's Labour's plan? No really what is their plan? Have you a clue? Cos I haven't. Repeat Hollande's policies? Be like Spain? They haven't got policies. They realise the Tories have outflanked them. It's all rather pathetic TBH at this stage of the election campaign

I'm afraid (as with the other major parties) you'll just have to wait for their manifesto to be published in March.

Meanwhile, keep your eyes open for policy announcements like the one on Monday, which linked future Social Services care provision with NHS treatment.

That was an example of joined up thinking if ever I saw one and is clearly what GB needs in order to avoid the current bed blocking by the elderly, (through no fault of theirs) in the NHS.

 

[Gt Yarmouth Shrimper]

I have found an ideal response to this 'crisis' is to work hard, get a couple of promotions, get made redundant, then start a new job three weeks later. Price of petrol falling rapidly helps too.[/QUE]

Or just do what I did when faced with an uncertain future after my strokes and having to take on less demanding work. Cut back on spending and buy a cheaper car. It's my responsibility to look after myself and my family even though I could, quite legally, pack it all in and claim benefits Why are the lefties always looking to someone to blame. Take responsibility for your own lives and don't expect it to be handed to you on a plate!!
Whilst approximately 60% of the worlds population are still crapping in the streets and fields as they do not have a toilet to use, no one living in this country has a right to complain.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I have found an ideal response to this 'crisis' is to work hard, get a couple of promotions, get made redundant, then start a new job three weeks later. Price of petrol falling rapidly helps too.[/QUE]

Or just do what I did when faced with an uncertain future after my strokes and having to take on less demanding work. Cut back on spending and buy a cheaper car. It's my responsibility to look after myself and my family even though I could, quite legally, pack it all in and claim benefits Why are the lefties always looking to someone to blame. Take responsibility for your own lives and don't expect it to be handed to you on a plate!!
Whilst approximately 60% of the worlds population are still crapping in the streets and fields as they do not have a toilet to use, no one living in this country has a right to complain.

So much for representative democracy then? :unsure:

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

I'm afraid (as with the other major parties) you'll just have to wait for their manifesto to be published in March.

Meanwhile, keep your eyes open for policy announcements like the one on Monday, which linked future Social Services care provision with NHS treatment.

That was an example of joined up thinking if ever I saw one and is clearly what GB needs in order to avoid the current bed blocking by the elderly, (through no fault of theirs) in the NHS.

**** me sideways Barna this has been talked about for 40 years. Hardly new and believe me won't make much of a difference. In fact it may make things worse cf Education and children's services being combined after the Laming report.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Cost of Living Crisis.

Wages for blue collar workers are not going up; and haven't for the last 4 years: however some persons may have had yearly incremental rises.

Prices and costs have risen; the basket of goods selected for the inflation figures changes regularly BUT most every day essentials have risen year on year.

Are we yet at breaking point? probably not for enough people however riots and the like could happen over the summer if there is a Duggan type sparking incident as those at the bottom of society have less to lose than for decades past.

Worrying times ahead.

Also, as regards any party manifesto; would it REALLY change peoples voting preferences? do most voters bother to pick policies? or do they just go red or blue as they and their peers do?
My guess is that 90%+ of those that vote have already, pre-manifesto, decided.

 

[Gt Yarmouth Shrimper]

Cost of Living Crisis.

Wages for blue collar workers are not going up; and haven't for the last 4 years: however some persons may have had yearly incremental rises.

Prices and costs have risen; the basket of goods selected for the inflation figures changes regularly BUT most every day essentials have risen year on year.

Are we yet at breaking point? probably not for enough people however riots and the like could happen over the summer if there is a Duggan type sparking incident as those at the bottom of society have less to lose than for decades past.

Worrying times ahead.

Also, as regards any party manifesto; would it REALLY change peoples voting preferences? do most voters bother to pick policies? or do they just go red or blue as they and their peers do?
My guess is that 90%+ of those that vote have already, pre-manifesto, decided.

The only thing I have decided is that having lived through the awful years of rubbish in the streets, bodies not being buried, car strikes and power cuts together with the boom and bust years of Blair and Brown, I will never ever vote Labour again.

 

[londonblue]

The only thing I have decided is that having lived through the awful years of rubbish in the streets, bodies not being buried, car strikes and power cuts together with the boom and bust years of Blair and Brown, I will never ever vote Labour again.

And having lived through Thatcher you'll never ever get me voting tory.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jan/30/british-wage-slump-post-financial-crisis-uk

It's official.There is a cost of living crisis.

The IFS says so.

We've had a "pay squeeze" for the last six years.

No, it is not official and no the IFS does not say that there is a cost of living crisis.

The only crisis the IFS talk about is the financial one (which if you want to play tribal politics happened under Labour's watch).

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Correctly put londonblue and GYS, I amend my post to "90%+ have decided who they WON'T vote for".

 

[superblue24]

There is no "cost of living crisis", it's a total fallacy invented by figments of Labours' imagination. Nothing anyone will say to me on this forum will convince me otherwise. Maybe if I see actual evidence from someone I know, I might consider it as an "issue", but certainly not a "crisis"

 

[ozzie]

its the same europe everywhere...been getting worse since they brought in the euro!! Have had ,in the last 12 years here, in total of 6% wage rise!!!you can only cut back so much....but the RICH get RICHER:happy: