Concern

[fbm]

Couldn't get to the game yesterday, but have spoken to a couple of people that did.

I gather we were very much on top and the stats seem to back that up. We had a total of 25 goal attempts, with 11 of them on target.

So is there a real concern that we just cannot score enough goals? I mean, 3 points is nice, and it's now 4 wins out of 5, but if we can't kill teams off then we are just not going to win that many games, are we? A better team than Kiddie will soak up the pressure and catch us on the break, just as Wycombe did a couple of weeks ago.

Is the problem the strikers or the supply? And don't harp back to Constantine... lots of his were penalties and scored from wide right midfield rather than a striker. He had a "one-off" season, hasn't exactly set Peterboro alight and didn't set anywhere else alight before we got him.

 

[overseas shrimper]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ Sep. 26 2004,12:04)]Couldn't get to the game yesterday, but have spoken to a couple of people that did.

I gather we were very much on top and the stats seem to back that up. We had a total of 25 goal attempts, with 11 of them on target.

So is there a real concern that we just cannot score enough goals? I mean, 3 points is nice, and it's now 4 wins out of 5, but if we can't kill teams off then we are just not going to win that many games, are we? A better team than Kiddie will soak up the pressure and catch us on the break, just as Wycombe did a couple of weeks ago.

Is the problem the strikers or the supply? And don't harp back to Constantine... lots of his were penalties and scored from wide right midfield rather than a striker. He had a "one-off" season, hasn't exactly set Peterboro alight and didn't set anywhere else alight before we got him.

I can think of a better reason not to harp back to Connie: he's gone... that's in the past. What do we think of the situation NOW?

Listening to the game, it seemed like a combination of:

Unlucky / poor finishing...

... a shot made when a square ball across the face of goal to Bramble (?) would been the better option.

Good goalkeeping.

It's difficult to know, from where I am, whether or not there are any problems with supply, but if we had so many chances... can you really blame supply?

 

[BluePartridge]

Also Kidderminster absolutely packed their defence and didn't even give a consideration of attack. We only had a couple of REAL chances and I think they fell to Maher OVER THE BAR!

I do think that we have to change the way we play at home obviously as we saw against Wycombe we need some more confidence in front of goal.

 

[benfleet shrimper]

ok so there may some slight concern over our scoring ability upfront, but on a plus note bramble looked sharp yesterday and it seems he has got that hunger back to score goals.

 

[Its grim up north!]

Constantine!

 

[Technician]

Quote[/b] (overseas shrimper @ Sep. 26 2004,10:13)]

Quote[/b] (fbm @ Sep. 26 2004,12:04)]Couldn't get to the game yesterday, but have spoken to a couple of people that did.

I gather we were very much on top and the stats seem to back that up.  We had a total of 25 goal attempts, with 11 of them on target.

So is there a real concern that we just cannot score enough goals?  I mean, 3 points is nice, and it's now 4 wins out of 5, but if we can't kill teams off then we are just not going to win that many games, are we?  A better team than Kiddie will soak up the pressure and catch us on the break, just as Wycombe did a couple of weeks ago.

Is the problem the strikers or the supply?  And don't harp back to Constantine... lots of his were penalties and scored from wide right midfield rather than a striker.  He had a "one-off" season, hasn't exactly set Peterboro alight and didn't set anywhere else alight before we got him.

I can think of a better reason not to harp back to Connie: he's gone... that's in the past. What do we think of the situation NOW?

Listening to the game, it seemed like a combination of:

Unlucky / poor finishing...

... a shot made when a square ball across the face of goal to Bramble (?) would been the better option.

Good goalkeeping.

It's difficult to know, from where I am, whether or not there are any problems with supply, but if we had so many chances... can you really blame supply?

Agree with that OS ["for once!"

], especially their GK, who effectively kept Kidderminster in the game... they adopted real backs to the wall stuff when down to 10 men and it wasn't as if we weren't getting shots on target... from all angles I might add.

We seem to be playing a lot better away from home [as the stat's prove!] for whatever reason and as Blue Partridge quite rightly says, we could do with perhaps altering our tactics slightly at home, to become more effective.

The defence was solid all afternoon and from my vantage point in the upper south, Kidderminster didn't worry us at all... but, if it had been a better team, we might not have won the game!. A clean sheet always instills confidence though.

As mentioned in another thread, I may go to Darlo next Saturday [my first away of the season!], to see for myself... what we are doing away from home, that we're not doing at the hall.

 

[The General]

I reckon my prediction of 12th could well come true...

Kev

 

[Blonde_Fan]

the difference between home and away is quite simple.  I have seen all the away games and teams do not want to settle for just a point at home so they do not pack their defence thus giving us alot more space to play our passing game which seems to work so well

 

[east stand drummer boy]

I wouldnt say that it was poor finishing at all its just seemed all of our shoots got a deflection and slowed down the power and went straight to keeper! its good to se us shooting from free kicks too!

 

[footymad13]

I really feel confident about the team atm, we are looking good but the real worry is, Rushden, Notts, Kiddie are all very poor sides. 2 years ago we wouldn't have won these games and we are moving forward but i am worried that when we do play the better teams, that we will play well as we have been doing, but not putting the chances away and killing these games off but the good teams will make us pay unlike the poorer teams.

We totally dominated yesterday, Kiddie created nothing and made mistakes, if we are going to really push for the play offs we have to start converting chances if we don't we will pay the price. The amount of chances we should have won 3-4 nil still 3 points is 3 points but how long can we go missing all these chances ?

Well done to Gower a superb goal and great little pass by Dudders. More please !!!
P.S Dare i say it but well done to Bramble, had a good game yesterday, made some very usefull crosses and passes and looked strong.

 

[Fat Man Dancing]

still feel the quality of some of the crossing is a worry. Since
Nicky has been dropped where are the low powerful shots
coming in from the by line that defenders hate.  I think also   Wilson will be a big worry when we play a team with a pacy winger as he does not have any pace

 

[Andy_S]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Sep. 26 2004,18:02)]P.S Dare i say it but well done to Bramble, had a good game yesterday, made some very usefull crosses and passes and looked strong.

You know it makes sense.

 

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (Andy_S @ Sep. 26 2004,20:32)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Sep. 26 2004,18:02)]P.S Dare i say it but well done to Bramble, had a good game yesterday, made some very usefull crosses and passes and looked strong.

You know it makes sense.  

shhhhh, I still can't believe i wrote that !

He had some good touches and looked solid, and certainly had one of his best games in a long while but just to be a bit of negative, he still has quite a bit of stuff to work on if he is gonna be the player we all want him to be.

 

[Andy_S]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Sep. 26 2004,19:46)]

Quote[/b] (Andy_S @ Sep. 26 2004,20:32)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Sep. 26 2004,18:02)]P.S Dare i say it but well done to Bramble, had a good game yesterday, made some very usefull crosses and passes and looked strong.

You know it makes sense.  

shhhhh, I still can't believe i wrote that !

That's why I had to quote it before you could get a chance to change it!

 

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (Andy_S @ Sep. 26 2004,20:49)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Sep. 26 2004,19:46)]

Quote[/b] (Andy_S @ Sep. 26 2004,20:32)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Sep. 26 2004,18:02)]P.S Dare i say it but well done to Bramble, had a good game yesterday, made some very usefull crosses and passes and looked strong.

You know it makes sense.  

shhhhh, I still can't believe i wrote that !

That's why I had to quote it before you could get a chance to change it!  

How did you know i was gonna change it ?

 

[Andy_S]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Sep. 26 2004,19:51)]

Quote[/b] (Andy_S @ Sep. 26 2004,20:49)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Sep. 26 2004,19:46)]

Quote[/b] (Andy_S @ Sep. 26 2004,20:32)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Sep. 26 2004,18:02)]P.S Dare i say it but well done to Bramble, had a good game yesterday, made some very usefull crosses and passes and looked strong.

You know it makes sense.  

shhhhh, I still can't believe i wrote that !

That's why I had to quote it before you could get a chance to change it!  

How did you know i was gonna change it ?

 

 

[The General]

Bramble is a legend. Youse knows it.

 

[Technician]

Looking at the division as a whole, there are few teams we will come up against that will cause us any real worries... the top five teams could...

Yeovil have just recently demolished Oxford U. 6-1 and could potentially walk this division... but their away form is no better than ours... they are scoring goals for fun though.

Sc**thorpe are also goal-getters but have only played 2 good teams so far [Mansfield & Oxford - both drawn]. I suspect they will be in or around the play-offs come May.

Swansea winning games and defending well, but they've scored 2 goals less than us. I suspect they will fade as the season progresses to a mid-table finish... they had a similar start last year IIRC.

Wycombe are not too dis-similar to us regarding form, but are potentially a top 3 side with Tony Adams at the helm and will carry a threat for most sides. Lost heavily at home to Rochdale earlier in the season though, which makes them susceptible!!!

Mansfield also scoring goals for fun, but their away form appears to be suspect and shows they are beatable.

Oxford, Grimsby, Northampton & Notts County are the other ones to watch of course, but I haven't seen anything [Yeovil aside] from the 10 games played so far, that tells me SUFC don't have a reasonable shout for the play-offs come May.

Obviously, we could have a drop in form! then there's injuries and supensions... but every team will experience the same thing, to some degree or other throughout the season!

Concerns? what concerns!  

Luke [FM13], you mentioned in your earlier post, that we need to put away more chances and that we are perhaps fortunate to be getting points against poorer sides like Notts County & Kidderminster, but would struggle with the better sides. This is possibly true, but I am sure you will agree that provided our shots are on target, then there is little more that our players can do.

Incidentally, we had more shots on target yesterday, than any other L2 team, but Danby [Kidder's GK] stopped all but Marky Gower's strike... which most GK's would have had trouble stopping anyway!

On another day, a couple more shots may have gone in, but when you have an opposition GK playing out of his skin, then there really is nothing you can do.

Darlo on Saturday! C'MON YOU BLUES...  

 

[footymad13]

Quote[/b] (Technician @ Sep. 27 2004,00:27)]Luke [FM13], you mentioned in your earlier post, that we need to put away more chances and that we are perhaps fortunate to be getting points against poorer sides like Notts County & Kidderminster, but would struggle with the better sides. This is possibly true, but I am sure you will agree that provided our shots are on target, then there is little more that our players can do.

I meant to mention that earlier, for me its the most frustrating thing, the strikers are playing well and i couldn't say lets put X outta the team, well not on yesterdays performance anyway, and get a loan player in. Its just putting it away and putting the game to bed.

We are creating the chances, looking pretty good and dangerous and its so hard to blame anyone, its just that magic touch i guess ...

 

[shrimper magic]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Sep. 26 2004,20:46)]

Quote[/b] (Andy_S @ Sep. 26 2004,20:32)]

Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Sep. 26 2004,18:02)]P.S Dare i say it but well done to Bramble, had a good game yesterday, made some very usefull crosses and passes and looked strong.

You know it makes sense.  

shhhhh, I still can't believe i wrote that !

He had some good touches and looked solid, and certainly had one of his best games in a long while but just to be a bit of negative, he still has quite a bit of stuff to work on if he is gonna be the player we all want him to be.

 

I personally thought that Bramble was our MoTM on sat, his first touch was quality, he was strong when receiving the ball to feet whilst backing into the defenders and when he did mange to turn and run at their back four he scared the life out of them.

Like many on this board i have thought in the past he has seemed uninterested and a little overweight, but on the 4 times i've seen him play this season he has looked very sharp and lost a bit of weight, all we need now is for him to start bagging some goals .