Jonny_Stokes
Dan Agyei Appreciator
Firstly: f%&k off Jonny, Orient scum, going down, East London is full of ethnic minorities. Right, now we've got that out of the way:
I can't believe the negativity on this board. I really can't. I know football fans are fickle creatures, and I know as well as any of you how it feels to embark on a poor sequence of results. But to have a series of threads like the ones dominating the first page of SZ is, to me anyway, absolutely incredible.
8 games without a win? Try going 12 in a lower division. Two points off safety? Try being 3 off safety in a lower division. Bad defence? Try letting in 31 goals in a lower division. I know that Southend aren't Leyton Orient (yeah, yeah thank f%&k) but our current experiences are comparable.
One major similarity is the manager. I've seen a number of posts criticising Tilson for "being out of his depth". What else did you expect? The guy hardly played at this level, let alone managed at it before. How can you criticise a manager who's gained two promotions in a row? I mean, I',m aware that you don't want to go around living in the past (like Spurs), but for feck's sake give the guy a chance to turn it round before decrying him as not good enough at this level. Some of the impatient elements of our fans have been doing exactly the same to Ling. Yes he has made a few mistakes, but he's made a couple of good loan signings and we're hopefully going to turn the corner. They're both amongst the best young managers in the country and come on, what's the viable alternative to them? Who do you want instead? You were sh!tting yourselves when you thought he was off to Norwich a couple of weeks back, and now he isn't good enough?
The same goes for a number of the players. They've been successful at a lower level - some of them two levels lower. Can you really begrudge them a crack at this division? Can you really call these players who gave their all to win you a Championship uncommitted, just because they're playing with a lack of confidence?
And off the pitch the clubs is making real strides with the proposed new ground. You're gearing up for Championship football rather than flogging off your ground in an attempt to squeeze every bit of capital out of the club before leaving it to die on its arse (idea copyright: B. H£arn.). I'm sure you'll all turn round and say "well that's no use if we're not in Championship". Well, you weren't exactly planning to be here, were you? Not exactly part of the long term plan to have gone straight through. Some attitudes are so goddamned short-sighted and negative.
"Ah," I hear you say "not much to be positive about on the pitch is there?". Well no, not at the moment. But you're on this bad run and you're still only two points off safety. I was amazed by those of you that thought you'd be comfortably ensconced in mid-table this season, when everything was pointing at a season of struggle. Funnily enough it's these same fantasists that are now wailing away at your current plight, demanding wholesale change.
Of course Col******r being on a good run is distorting the situation as, quite rightly, you're expecting to finish above them. But do you honestly think that they won't go on a bad run like you're experiencing now? That they won't find themselves in freefall at some stage? And, more importantly, that you're not going to have a decent run some time in this season? Hell, even we've managed to be three games unbeaten at the moment.
In short, you're not 'out of your depth', you're just a) still adjusting to the level, and b) not one of the better sides in the division. You'll lose more than you win. And yeah, it's disappointing and it isn't too much fun, but is it a reason to start going overboard? I think not. There's six or seven Championship sides in the same boat as you, so all is not lost. You're not cut adrift. You've not lost Eatswood or Tilson. You're not in the first round of the FA Cup. And you're not West Ham. So enjoy the bigger grounds, better atmospheres and better players on show and for f%&k's sake cheer up.
J_S
I can't believe the negativity on this board. I really can't. I know football fans are fickle creatures, and I know as well as any of you how it feels to embark on a poor sequence of results. But to have a series of threads like the ones dominating the first page of SZ is, to me anyway, absolutely incredible.
8 games without a win? Try going 12 in a lower division. Two points off safety? Try being 3 off safety in a lower division. Bad defence? Try letting in 31 goals in a lower division. I know that Southend aren't Leyton Orient (yeah, yeah thank f%&k) but our current experiences are comparable.
One major similarity is the manager. I've seen a number of posts criticising Tilson for "being out of his depth". What else did you expect? The guy hardly played at this level, let alone managed at it before. How can you criticise a manager who's gained two promotions in a row? I mean, I',m aware that you don't want to go around living in the past (like Spurs), but for feck's sake give the guy a chance to turn it round before decrying him as not good enough at this level. Some of the impatient elements of our fans have been doing exactly the same to Ling. Yes he has made a few mistakes, but he's made a couple of good loan signings and we're hopefully going to turn the corner. They're both amongst the best young managers in the country and come on, what's the viable alternative to them? Who do you want instead? You were sh!tting yourselves when you thought he was off to Norwich a couple of weeks back, and now he isn't good enough?
The same goes for a number of the players. They've been successful at a lower level - some of them two levels lower. Can you really begrudge them a crack at this division? Can you really call these players who gave their all to win you a Championship uncommitted, just because they're playing with a lack of confidence?
And off the pitch the clubs is making real strides with the proposed new ground. You're gearing up for Championship football rather than flogging off your ground in an attempt to squeeze every bit of capital out of the club before leaving it to die on its arse (idea copyright: B. H£arn.). I'm sure you'll all turn round and say "well that's no use if we're not in Championship". Well, you weren't exactly planning to be here, were you? Not exactly part of the long term plan to have gone straight through. Some attitudes are so goddamned short-sighted and negative.
"Ah," I hear you say "not much to be positive about on the pitch is there?". Well no, not at the moment. But you're on this bad run and you're still only two points off safety. I was amazed by those of you that thought you'd be comfortably ensconced in mid-table this season, when everything was pointing at a season of struggle. Funnily enough it's these same fantasists that are now wailing away at your current plight, demanding wholesale change.
Of course Col******r being on a good run is distorting the situation as, quite rightly, you're expecting to finish above them. But do you honestly think that they won't go on a bad run like you're experiencing now? That they won't find themselves in freefall at some stage? And, more importantly, that you're not going to have a decent run some time in this season? Hell, even we've managed to be three games unbeaten at the moment.
In short, you're not 'out of your depth', you're just a) still adjusting to the level, and b) not one of the better sides in the division. You'll lose more than you win. And yeah, it's disappointing and it isn't too much fun, but is it a reason to start going overboard? I think not. There's six or seven Championship sides in the same boat as you, so all is not lost. You're not cut adrift. You've not lost Eatswood or Tilson. You're not in the first round of the FA Cup. And you're not West Ham. So enjoy the bigger grounds, better atmospheres and better players on show and for f%&k's sake cheer up.
J_S
