2017 General Election thread

[londonblue]

I disagree. There has been a massive groundswell behind JC. A lot of people feel empowered to vote as it's not the continuation of the neo-Liberal model so beloved of the Tories and New Labour.

Sadly I don't think he'll win, but maybe, just maybe he can form a coalition Government of centre-left parties.

I disagree. That groundswell would have voted labour this time around anyway simply because they're not the tories, and they're fed up with them. If Corduroy hadn't been himself then labour would be walking this election. A lot of people don't want a hypocritical racist sympathiser who can't lead his own party effectively as PM.

Any one of those three has put people off. The combination of people that leads to would be enough to win this election hands down.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Maybe, but if he hadn't been himself then labour would be walking this election. A lot of people don't want a hypocritical racist sympathiser who can't lead his own party effectively as PM.

Any one of those three has put people off. The combination of people that leads to would be enough to win this election hands down.

Well I don't believe for one second that is true, and in regards to your second point the Labour party members never thought he would be in this position - me included - and we're expecting a hammering. Thus they were saving their own arses, especially if they were MPs under Blair & Brown.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Breaking news: Abbot steps aside as shadow Home Secretary due to "ill health". I think that's a good thing (though obviously not the ill health bit). She's been an absolute car crash.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Breaking news: Abbot steps aside as shadow Home Secretary due to "ill health". I think that's a good thing (though obviously not the ill health bit). She's been an absolute car crash.

Now this is mixed news. Diane Abbott has been replaced as Shadow Foreign Secretary.......by the Labour candidate for West Ham!

 

[rigsby]

Breaking news: Abbot steps aside as shadow Home Secretary due to "ill health". I think that's a good thing (though obviously not the ill health bit). She's been an absolute car crash.

All Abbott jokes aside, I can't help thinking she does have some genuine illness after watching her over the last year. And that is not meant in a nasty way.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Well I don't believe for one second that is true, and in regards to your second point the Labour party members never thought he would be in this position - me included - and we're expecting a hammering. Thus they were saving their own arses, especially if they were MPs under Blair & Brown.

what Corbyn has done is produce a manifesto packed with things that the public want or need. Then he has taken every opportunity on TV, in the press, in public - to talk about these policies. People have realised that is how to engage and they have realised you pick a PM on their policy.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

All Abbott jokes aside, I can't help thinking she does have some genuine illness after watching her over the last year. And that is not meant in a nasty way.

I agree.





*this will never happen again

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I did say hard working and welcome :winking:

Ha! I'd like to think I qualify on at least one of those counts -though it would be immodest of me to say which.:smiles:

 

[Uncle Leo]

Well there's a surprise. Give a gig to Andrea Leadsom and she ****s it.

 

[southendkid]

Breaking news: Abbot steps aside as shadow Home Secretary due to "ill health". I think that's a good thing (though obviously not the ill health bit). She's been an absolute car crash.

I think this is legitimate, if Corbyn genuinely wanted rid of Abbott he wouldn't have waited until the day before the vote to do it. I'm happy she's no longer in the shadow cabinet but hopefully it's something she can recover from (just so long as she isn't reinstated when she gets better).

 

[MK Shrimper]

I think this is legitimate, if Corbyn genuinely wanted rid of Abbott he wouldn't have waited until the day before the vote to do it. I'm happy she's no longer in the shadow cabinet but hopefully it's something she can recover from (just so long as she isn't reinstated when she gets better).

Agreed. Maybe the stress of it all got to her. I wish her a speedy recovery and long and healthy retirement. :winking:

 

[londonblue]

Breaking news: Abbot steps aside as shadow Home Secretary due to "ill health". I think that's a good thing (though obviously not the ill health bit). She's been an absolute car crash.

I think it's pretty clear this has nothing to do with ill health. If only the other car crash would do the same.

 

[BILLERICAY BLUE]

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How do you multi quote??

 

[MK Shrimper]

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How do you multi quote??

I think it's pretty clear this has nothing to do with ill health. If only the other car crash would do the same.

No idea. :smile:


.....click the posts you want to quote by clicking the speech bubble and + sign, then "reply with quote".

 

[RHB]

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How do you multi quote??

On the bottom of each post there is a speech bubble with quotes inside it and a + sign(far right). For every quote that you want to include click the bubble against each post. When you have included them all, click the reply with quote box against the last of the multiple quotes.

 

[Jai]

I for one am a bit concerned about this promise to play around with the Human Rights Act. It's lovely rhetoric, but how exactly will this be done?

For example, if I made a jokey remark like "I hate this country sometimes" on Whatsapp am I going to be let back in again once I've landed at Stansted following my 2018 holibobs?

I'm not being deliberately awkward but I'd be interested to know how exactly our human rights will change due to a few nutters and how this will stop terrorist atrocities. Is altering our democracy to make our country less free not cowing to terrorists?

The Human Rights Act is there to protect all of us surely - things like a right to a fair trial, and rights of employees, they are a cornerstone of our democracy. Yes we face a new and deadly threat from radical terrorists, but you remain more likely to be killed by a cow than a terrorist.

Questions need to be asked about this, and clarifications need to be made.

 

[Benfleet A1]

I for one am a bit concerned about this promise to play around with the Human Rights Act. It's lovely rhetoric, but how exactly will this be done?

For example, if I made a jokey remark like "I hate this country sometimes" on Whatsapp am I going to be let back in again once I've landed at Stansted following my 2018 holibobs?

I'm not being deliberately awkward but I'd be interested to know how exactly our human rights will change due to a few nutters and how this will stop terrorist atrocities. Is altering our democracy to make our country less free not cowing to terrorists?

The Human Rights Act is there to protect all of us surely - things like a right to a fair trial, and rights of employees, they are a cornerstone of our democracy. Yes we face a new and deadly threat from radical terrorists, but you remain more likely to be killed by a cow than a terrorist.

Questions need to be asked about this, and clarifications need to be made.

Where are you going on holiday. Syria, Somalia? I'm pretty sure a glib remark on your Whatsapp account wont result in arrest when returning from Spain with a donkey under your arm.

 

[Jai]

Where are you going on holiday. Syria, Somalia? I'm pretty sure a glib remark on your Whatsapp account wont result in arrest when returning from Spain with a donkey under your arm.

I've heard Somalia has a lovely coastline.

Seriously though some clarity from May wouldn't go amiss. It was a jocular example but dicking around with the HRA is opening a can of worms.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

I've heard Somalia has a lovely coastline.

Seriously though some clarity from May wouldn't go amiss. It was a jocular example but dicking around with the HRA is opening a can of worms.

you won't get any clarification from May, it was a last minute panic because people kept asking about funding for the police. HRA was protected in their manifesto, now its.....unprotected. This kind of politics where your reaction to events is to u-turn on the policies you were fighting the election on earlier that day is disturbingly shambolic.

 

[Benfleet A1]

I've heard Somalia has a lovely coastline.

Full of sharks and pirates but easy to get a nice spot on the beach.