Breaking News The Nov/Dec Embargo thread

[Shrimper]

£200k will take a while to clear

 

[palexander]

So we know now why Maher cant bring new players in.What we wont to know now what are the plans to lift the embargo so we can.This current group are useless and with the embargo in place we are stagnating.So a statement from the club would be nice,no flannel clean facts which supporters deserve.

Its what Stan promised, and hasnt delivered IMO.

 

[Userorange]

Even if Ron gets the current crisis sorted the problem isn’t going away.

 

[JAL]

Don't worry, once (more like IF) Ron Martin clears it, he'll still take credit for probably the money coming out his 'own' pocket.

 

[Napster]

£200k will take a while to clear

thats 4 Charlie Sayers.

 

[kentblues]

Gulp.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1468514856013811718

I wonder if HMRC have changed their position on the payment plan I thought was agreed?
Tom and co would have known if payments that they expected to make were paid or not. Wouldn't be the first time that HMRC have moved the goalposts.

Surprised the amount is as low as suggested. At least that information makes it more likely there will be an earlier resolution.

 

[defender05]

We WILL go down this season if we don't improve the team.

Simple as that.

Ron needs to sell up and give us half a chance. all this "lets get behind the lads" bull**** has got to stop!!!!! We have gone from a league 1 side pushing for promotion to this!

What is it going to take for some of you to wake up and realize we are doomed if something doesn't change? Conference South? Isthmian Prem?

COME ON PEOPLE!!! Have a look around!!! do you really think this is normal? enough is enough!

GET MARTIN OUT.

Ron has said that he want's his £15M back so if anybody want's to buy the club put the money up and make an offer. If Ron turns it down speak to the Echo and say something otherwise you can shout Martin out as much as you want but it won't effect anything.

 

[Strykr]

Its what Stan promised, and hasnt delivered IMO.

Yes i agree. More transparency and community relations etc was part of his remit.

Is it because his hands have been tied by ron, or because
he's got the ump from not posting on the zone anymore?

Someone at the club needs to make a ****ing statement, they just take us fans for fools...

 

[StanCollymore]

Ironic that SVC himself started the Recruitment thread and nothing happened, apart from Still's arrival. Another mouth to feed when players were the priority. Surely the embargo must been seen coming. The CEO must have known. Don't the new management team speak to each other?

I haven't taken one penny from Southend United to date.

 

[Clinton Baptiste]

Ron best enter the Shrimpers Trust quiz.

 

[mattytheshrimper]

I haven't taken one penny from Southend United to date.

This surely cannot be the real Stan

 

[blues exile]

Its what Stan promised, and hasnt delivered IMO.

The HMRC tax demand would not have come out of the blue. The CEO must have been aware that there were problems on the horizon that would have to be dealt with yet was instrumental in the appointment of a top heavy and expensive management team full of brave talk when the reality must have been obvious. It also raises the question of did the trio of coaches, SVC and Still walk into this blindly without taking the trouble to ascertain the true extent of the club's finances, in view of past history you would have expected a modicum of caution at the very least.

 

[amsemp]

Anyone remember the Chesterfield fan who came back on here after all the backroom appointments and warned us not to ease the pressure on Ron? Said something similar had happened at Chesterfield to pacify the fans and nothing changed, so we shouldn’t back down. How right he was eh?

No idea where we even go from here. Doubt Ron’s got £200k he’ll hand over to HMRC tomorrow. He normally only pays up once we’re standing in front of the firing squad with a blindfold on. Time for a hostile takeover from Collymore and the consortium? Is that even possible with Ron as majority shareholder?

God this is depressing.

 

[nevereatwhitesnow]

I wonder if HMRC have changed their position on the payment plan I thought was agreed?
Tom and co would have known if payments that they expected to make were paid or not. Wouldn't be the first time that HMRC have moved the goalposts.

Surprised the amount is as low as suggested. At least that information makes it more likely there will be an earlier resolution.

Blimey - I know you are a loyal fan but trying to twist this in some way to be (even in part) HMRC's fault is a big stretch. If you pay all your taxes on time you don't appear in court or get placed under an embargo- the vast majority of clubs avoid that entirely - of the few that do have troubles they tend to pay and learn to avoid a reoccurrence.

This is 100% down to Ron and his inability to manage the finances properly - bearing in mind SUFC attendances (and therefore income) is way higher than the vast majority of the NL (and most of League 2, some of League 1)

The amount being "low" isn't really relevant at the moment - especially given Ron's ongoing reliance on Lawyers will be eating up those sort of amount at an alarmingly regular rate

 

[Danshrimper]

Anyone remember the Chesterfield fan who came back on here after all the backroom appointments and warned us not to ease the pressure on Ron? Said something similar had happened at Chesterfield to pacify the fans and nothing changed, so we shouldn’t back down. How right he was eh?

No idea where we even go from here. Doubt Ron’s got £200k he’ll hand over to HMRC tomorrow. He normally only pays up once we’re standing in front of the firing squad with a blindfold on. Time for a hostile takeover from Collymore and the consortium? Is that even possible with Ron as majority shareholder?

God this is depressing.

It doesn’t necessarily have to be paid in one lump sum. A Time to Pay agreement can be reached with HMRC where the bill will be paid in instalments.

Of course there’s a couple of issues with that. One - HMRC need to agree to it. And two - we will continue to rack up further VAT liabilities whilst paying off the £200k. Leaving us in the same position further down the line and creating what appears to now be a vicious never ending cycle of money owed to HMRC.

 

[nevereatwhitesnow]

The HMRC tax demand would not have come out of the blue. The CEO must have been aware that there were problems on the horizon that would have to be dealt with yet was instrumental in the appointment of a top heavy and expensive management team full of brave talk when the reality must have been obvious. It also raises the question of did the trio of coaches, SVC and Still walk into this blindly without taking the trouble to ascertain the true extent of the club's finances, in view of past history you would have expected a modicum of caution at the very least.

I think that's a little harsh - whilst i'm no fan of Mr Collymore generally (anyone that continually talks about themselves and their achievements has issues in my book) I think Stan and John (and to maybe a slightly lesser extent Tom) have been totally played by Ron.

Whether they stick around is debatable - can see a very public Stan flounce in the near future as being associated with this after coming in as part of the solution won't sit well with him

 

[WestStandBlue]

This surely cannot be the real Stan

Wouldn’t surprise you tho would it, sakes SZ to delete account only to jump onto a new one to defend himself. Where have the buzz words gone???
Transparency?

 

[rayleigh dan]

FFS, what was the point of bringing in a whole new team then not allowing them to do their job. My only conclusion is that Ron’s done this to deflect heat from himself, annoyingly this has worked with some deciding to turn on Stan in particular.

Sort your **** out Ron, protests need to restart now IMO, at least until he pays what is owed.

 

[Scamps]

Where’s boy wonder??? Shot me down last week. Gone a bit quiet now.

 

[Texas Eslan]

So we are talking about a world where government's with a record of human rights abuses are allowed to buy our leading clubs and we want clubs takien away from other owners because tax bills are paid late? This is the problem.

Not at all. What you are talking is current world vs a small idea I had that would ensure owners are not in a position to kill a club they own financially but not emotionally.