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Craig Calver

BaileytheQuitter

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Where has he been/where is he?

I remember him looking quite decent in pre season. If Crawford is getting his chance then surely Craig should too.
 
yeah he's a decent little player. saw him play against canvey pre season and score 1 and nearly score a couple more. be a good shout to have him on the bench next season and see how he gets on.

i'm guessing he's on loan some where.

what about charles. will he come back?
 
yeah he's a decent little player. saw him play against canvey pre season and score 1 and nearly score a couple more. be a good shout to have him on the bench next season and see how he gets on.

i'm guessing he's on loan some where.

what about charles. will he come back?

Calver was released. I saw him against Canvey and his goal was pretty good.

Ademeno's contract means he will be at Crawley next season. If he stays fit, he could score a lot more goals.
 
This was an odd one. He was prolific for the youths and looked good in pre season with the seniors. Quite why he failed to net in the Blue Square South I don't know, because he certainly looked good enough, but it no doubt cost him a future with us.
 
This was certainly something of a conundrum. Craig scored 20+ goals for the Under-18s last season, and looked impressive pre-season, but when it came to the start of the League One season, he was frozen out and quickly joined St Alban's City on loan.

I saw Craig play for St Alban's while he was there, and he was out of position playing out wide, not through the middle, and he wasn't get many minutes on the pitch (he started one game and came on as a sub in a further three Blue Square South matches). Another potential issue was the service he got there - with all due respect to St Alban's, they weren't in the best of form during his time at the club and he wouldn't've been getting the quality of delivery that he got for our Under-18s and at Ipswich's Academy previously.

The flip-side is that you need to go out there and work hard at your game when you go out on loan to St Alban's, or Braintree Town as he later joined on loan. The main area that both Head of Youth Ricky Duncan and Steve Tilson pinpointed with Craig's game was improving his heading ability, and when he came back to play for the reserves, there were no real signs that it had improved dramatically.

I saw him a couple of times for the second-string after he came back, and he wasn't the same confident player that he had been in 2008/9 and in pre-season. He missed a penalty in one game, and a couple of one-on-ones that he would've put away in his sleep during the previous season. With that confidence gone, and with him only having secured a development contract, unfortunately his future at the club then was curtailed.

If he gets back to scoring goals regularly (he netted twice in nine games for Sudbury at the end of this season), then we could well see him back knocking on the door of League football, because when he played for the Under-18s he was one of the most destructive front men I've seen. When the squad beat QPR 5-3 away from home in the Youth Alliance Cup, he scored four and looked a class apart from anyone else on that pitch, and that was against a team that had won the Youth Alliance League three years on the trot.

I guess his failure to push on here shows that there is a big gulf between youth-team football and first-team football. There are some really positive signs from the likes of Franck Moussa, Stuart O'Keefe and Johnny Herd that you can make it, but all have had to plug away for long periods of time to earn their chance.

It seems that Steve Tilson is a really hard taskmaster when it comes to the youngsters breaking into the senior squad. I think he wants them all to be really hungry to get their chance, which is a good thing, but perhaps at times he has erred on the side of caution a little too far. His comments that it definitely wasn't Harry Crawford's goal on Saturday were strange; here was a lad making his full debut who, from my vantage point, appeared to get a clear touch on the ball (whether he knew too much about it or not) and the last thing that he would want is his own manager telling him that it wasn't his goal.

Ron Martin made a comment at the Q&A session that SUFC didn't include any youth team players in their squad list on the back of the programme as if this was a good thing. Before Saturday's match, Crawford had made five substitute appearances - surely that is worthy of being included in a squad list?

Knowing Harry Crawford as I do, I think he's the sort of resilient character that it won't faze, but it is the sort of thing that could unnecessarily knock a youngster's confidence. There were times at the start of the season when we couldn't field a full quota of substitutes and Calver was available but wasn't even put on the bench to make up the numbers and gain some experience of being around the first-team - maybe that would've been the confidence boost he needed.
 
That last point is something I definitely agree with... Especially with the likes of O'Keefe who are versatile enough to be deployed across the midfield.

I think next season we'll see a lot more of the youth team being given chances to prove themselves. I'm not Herd's biggest fan as I think he's suspect defensively, but he's got a massive part to play next season, as has Moussa if he sticks around. O'Keefe should be good enough for a role on the bench.

Could we be seeing something of James Stevens next season? I hear he's rated very highly by Duncan...
 
...Could we be seeing something of James Stevens next season? I hear he's rated very highly by Duncan...

I hope so, James Stevens is another top talent. We've always played good football under Ricky Duncan, but this lad's range of passing is frightening. He will be a second-year scholar next season, so it's definitely the time for him to push on; he's a central midfielder, which could make it tough for him to break through depending on who sticks around, but he has got real talent. Anyone who was at the Toomey Trophy tournament in pre-season and saw his free-kick against Everton in the final will have been lucky enough to see his quick-thinking, intelligence and superb dead ball striking, so he's another name to look out for in 2010/11, certainly.

I can't stress enough how much of a positive the Centre of Excellence is here at SUFC - all the lads that Ricky Duncan and Luke Hobbs identify and then bring through are very good, and anyone that can be introduced to the senior squad is a real bonus for the Club. The success rate is getting better and better, but it will still be important next season that there are some experienced heads around with which to integrate the youngsters.

There are plenty of examples this season in reserve team football where a whole team full of Under-18s has come unstuck results-wise, even if there have been indiviudual success stories within those games. If we can introduce youngsters slowly into the fold then, as I've said in other threads, next year could be quite exciting and truly promising for the future.
 
I hope so, James Stevens is another top talent. We've always played good football under Ricky Duncan, but this lad's range of passing is frightening. He will be a second-year scholar next season, so it's definitely the time for him to push on; he's a central midfielder, which could make it tough for him to break through depending on who sticks around, but he has got real talent. Anyone who was at the Toomey Trophy tournament in pre-season and saw his free-kick against Everton in the final will have been lucky enough to see his quick-thinking, intelligence and superb dead ball striking, so he's another name to look out for in 2010/11, certainly.

I can't stress enough how much of a positive the Centre of Excellence is here at SUFC - all the lads that Ricky Duncan and Luke Hobbs identify and then bring through are very good, and anyone that can be introduced to the senior squad is a real bonus for the Club. The success rate is getting better and better, but it will still be important next season that there are some experienced heads around with which to integrate the youngsters.

There are plenty of examples this season in reserve team football where a whole team full of Under-18s has come unstuck results-wise, even if there have been indiviudual success stories within those games. If we can introduce youngsters slowly into the fold then, as I've said in other threads, next year could be quite exciting and truly promising for the future.

Sounds superb but my worry it there wont be any experience heads around next season to help them if things pan out the way they are looking at the moment.
 
This was certainly something of a conundrum. Craig scored 20+ goals for the Under-18s last season, and looked impressive pre-season, but when it came to the start of the League One season, he was frozen out and quickly joined St Alban's City on loan.

I saw Craig play for St Alban's while he was there, and he was out of position playing out wide, not through the middle, and he wasn't get many minutes on the pitch (he started one game and came on as a sub in a further three Blue Square South matches). Another potential issue was the service he got there - with all due respect to St Alban's, they weren't in the best of form during his time at the club and he wouldn't've been getting the quality of delivery that he got for our Under-18s and at Ipswich's Academy previously.

The flip-side is that you need to go out there and work hard at your game when you go out on loan to St Alban's, or Braintree Town as he later joined on loan. The main area that both Head of Youth Ricky Duncan and Steve Tilson pinpointed with Craig's game was improving his heading ability, and when he came back to play for the reserves, there were no real signs that it had improved dramatically.

I saw him a couple of times for the second-string after he came back, and he wasn't the same confident player that he had been in 2008/9 and in pre-season. He missed a penalty in one game, and a couple of one-on-ones that he would've put away in his sleep during the previous season. With that confidence gone, and with him only having secured a development contract, unfortunately his future at the club then was curtailed.

If he gets back to scoring goals regularly (he netted twice in nine games for Sudbury at the end of this season), then we could well see him back knocking on the door of League football, because when he played for the Under-18s he was one of the most destructive front men I've seen. When the squad beat QPR 5-3 away from home in the Youth Alliance Cup, he scored four and looked a class apart from anyone else on that pitch, and that was against a team that had won the Youth Alliance League three years on the trot.

I guess his failure to push on here shows that there is a big gulf between youth-team football and first-team football. There are some really positive signs from the likes of Franck Moussa, Stuart O'Keefe and Johnny Herd that you can make it, but all have had to plug away for long periods of time to earn their chance.

It seems that Steve Tilson is a really hard taskmaster when it comes to the youngsters breaking into the senior squad. I think he wants them all to be really hungry to get their chance, which is a good thing, but perhaps at times he has erred on the side of caution a little too far. His comments that it definitely wasn't Harry Crawford's goal on Saturday were strange; here was a lad making his full debut who, from my vantage point, appeared to get a clear touch on the ball (whether he knew too much about it or not) and the last thing that he would want is his own manager telling him that it wasn't his goal.

Ron Martin made a comment at the Q&A session that SUFC didn't include any youth team players in their squad list on the back of the programme as if this was a good thing. Before Saturday's match, Crawford had made five substitute appearances - surely that is worthy of being included in a squad list?

Knowing Harry Crawford as I do, I think he's the sort of resilient character that it won't faze, but it is the sort of thing that could unnecessarily knock a youngster's confidence. There were times at the start of the season when we couldn't field a full quota of substitutes and Calver was available but wasn't even put on the bench to make up the numbers and gain some experience of being around the first-team - maybe that would've been the confidence boost he needed.

interesting stuff exiled. i must admit i know little about the youth team. maybe your reports on the yoofs should become a sticky?

as for the bold bit, im sure that was banter, didnt tilly have a wry smile n his face??
 
...as for the bold bit, im sure that was banter, didnt tilly have a wry smile n his face??

I'd be delighted if that's the case - I'd only heard the interview and didn't have the benefit of seeing the pictures. I still think that Tilly takes a lot of persuading when it comes to the youngsters, but hopefully some of the more positive experiences of late will mean that those whose displays warrant further representation with the senior squad get it.
 
I'd be delighted if that's the case - I'd only heard the interview and didn't have the benefit of seeing the pictures. I still think that Tilly takes a lot of persuading when it comes to the youngsters, but hopefully some of the more positive experiences of late will mean that those whose displays warrant further representation with the senior squad get it.

i agree that tilson seems reluctant re: the youngsters, that said he sees them all the time and is far more experienced to make a decision then any of us!
I would imagine if we ever stumbled across a rooneyesque 16 year old tilly would be less reluctant! (although he would be snapped up by a prem academy)

lack of funds/warchest blah blah, will probably force tillys hand into playing youth team players, its probable that if we had money in the bank (or the squad of a few seasons back) harry crawford would be nowhere near the first team!
 

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